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Plane diverted - Islamic terrorists - we are going at it the wrong way.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Aug 16, 2006.

  1. JBIIRockets

    JBIIRockets Member

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    It's time to profile passengers before they enter the aircraft.
     
  2. tigermission1

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    Umm...that's not what I was referring to. I meant a 'modern state' in terms of its structure, much like China or Saudi or Egypt or even the US are considered 'modern states'...it is not a judgement based on their 'morality' or some other subjective standard.

    BTW, try to leave behind the "Mollah supporter" label, let's not act like kids if you want to have serious discussions. I didn't call you a "fascist Shah dictatorship supporter"...Be civil, it's beneath you to throw around labels like that.

    And to put your mind at ease, I am not a fan of the 'Mollahs', nor am I a fan of any theocracy (Muslim or otherwise) that exists in the world today. So be careful...

    May be because I have studied the region (including Iran) for years and years? Also, it's easy for most outside observers to see that the current regime has a pretty good hold on the country. Let's just say that the 'Mollahs' have as good a grip on power as Egypt's Mubarak or the Saud family have.

    You mean the kind of popularity that they currently enjoy? Western diplomats themselves assert that Ahmedinijad's popularity is at an all time high, but that's a byproduct of the population's support for the nuclear program and fear-mongering by the current leadership more than anything else, so it might be a bit misleading.

    OK, then they're doing a good job imitating their counterparts in Saudi and Egypt, and it's working so far.

    Oh, I never claimed they were 'saints', far from it. I know the history of the revolution, I am pretty well-versed in it, and they were anything but 'saints'.

    Oh, BTWII, They're not my 'idols'...
     
  3. robbie380

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    profile for what?
     
  4. blazer_ben

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    Actually Ahmadinejad was put in power by a huge vote rigging scam by the Revolutionary guards. the last elections were boycotted by the majority of iranians.

    Shah Supporter?.. no, you cant want a secular Republic Supporter and be a shah supporter at the same time. it just dosent mix. two different Ideologies.

    The mollah's clout with the more religious moslims in iran has become slimmer an slimmer over the course of this regime.


    BTW, after reading my previoue post, i cant believe how quickly i went off the handel. please accept my Sincer apologies.
     
  5. tigermission1

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    No biggie, I understand how passionate you are about your country. While we may disagree from time to time, that doesn't mean we can't do so respectfully.
     
  6. Harrisment

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    Doesn't sound like just a claustrophobic lady to me.


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060817-111533-1828r.htm

    The Washington Times
    www.washingtontimes.com
    Flight passengers describe hours of bizarre behavior
    By Audrey Hudson
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    Published August 18, 2006


    A self-described peace activist responsible for the diversion of a London-to-Washington flight Wednesday acted bizarrely for hours, made references to al Qaeda and hijack training flights, and was restrained by two passengers after she urinated in the aisle.
    Catherine C. Mayo, 59, a Vermont woman who also lives part time in Pakistan, was charged yesterday in federal court with interfering with a flight crew.
    United Flight 923 was forced to make an emergency landing at Boston's Logan International Airport under escort by two military jets.
    "She's got some very serious mental health problems," said Page Kelley, Mrs. Mayo's attorney, who described her client as "just barely lucid."
    According to an affidavit and passenger accounts, Mrs. Mayo began pacing the plane from the front to aft lavatory and asked a flight attendant, "Is this a training flight for United Flight 93?" -- the flight hijacked on September 11, 2001, that crashed into a Pennsylvania farm field.
    Mrs. Mayo demanded to speak with an air marshal, saying the contents of her bag would be of interest. Her bag contained a screwdriver, body lotion, several cigarette lighters and a bottle of water. The affidavit did not say how she smuggled the items on board, despite being screened twice at London's Heathrow Airport.
    When confronted by the captain, Mrs. Mayo made a reference to bomb assembly, saying, "There are six steps to building some unspecified thing."
    "She made reference to being with people associated with two words," the affidavit said. "She stated that she could not say what the two words were because the last time that she had said the two words she had been kicked off a flight in the United Arab Emirates."
    The captain ordered her restrained, and the passengers and a flight attendant tackled her and placed her hands in plastic cuffs.
    Officials in the United Kingdom and the U.S. are on heightened alert after dozens of British citizens were arrested last week, accused of plotting to smuggle liquid explosives aboard trans-Atlantic flights.
    Mrs. Mayo told passengers she was an undercover reporter testing security to see whether she could sneak restricted items on board.
    As a columnist for the Daily Times of Pakistan, Mrs. Mayo criticized President Bush -- calling him "a president not elected by the people"-- and the war in Iraq. "The folksongs of the 1960s will never be written again because of President George Bush. He has hampered the liberties of my country in the name of September 11. Songs now can only talk of patriotism they cannot mention peace," she wrote.
    Passengers initially assumed the men who restrained Mrs. Mayo were federal air marshals but yesterday said they were passengers recruited by flight attendants who provided them with handcuffs.
    "They were asked to be on the alert in case we need you," said Joan Bartko, a passenger who was traveling with her family.
    Mrs. Mayo "took down her slacks and started taking down her underwear, and that's when they got her. They were just passengers on the plane who immediately helped," Mrs. Bartko said.
    • This article is based in part on wire service reports.
     
  7. robbie380

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    awesome...we have an insane lady who can smuggle stuff past screeners after being screened TWICE!
     
  8. tigermission1

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    Now imagine what a 'sane' person could have done...at least she is harmless, a terrorist would not have been so.

    They can do whatever they want, there will be no such thing as a 'foolproof' way to tackle similar security issues. The terrorists almost always find a way around whatever barriers we put up.
     
  9. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy

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    Vodka and OJ ~ ON A PLANE
     

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