If The Wolves Don't Improve, Garnett Wants Out...Would you offer TMac?

I agree. One of the the few knocks on Garnett is that he doesn't close out games. He seems a little too passive at times and would rather set up teammates than take over. I'll keep T-Mac because he can make a 3 pointer or dribble length of court for a shot.(Remember 2 seasons ago vs. SA!)

 

I don't think that's a definite reason. I remember the T-Wolves team of 2-3 years back, when they made it to the WCF. Against the Kings, KG hit back to back 3s in crunch time.

I wouldn't do it though still, you got to have a balanced attack, inside and outside. KG plays like a guard, but fact is, he isn't a guard.

 

A PF that can space the floor, hit 3's, rebound, defend 4/5's, block shots, etc. is exactly what Houston brass has whined about needing ad nauseum.

 

If the twolves don't improve I think we might not have to worry about trading tmac for kg. It all depends if or not he would like to play in houston. If he does want to be a Rocket then we might be able to throw in some chump change for the guy. Of course it is and only if the Rockets can afford three mega stars. Instead of Yao and KG or Yao and Tmac, I'd like the Rockets to picture Yao, KG, and Tmac all on one team.

 

That would be awesome ... but I doubt the Rockets can afford those three mega stars!

 

And the knock is Tmac (and Kobe) is as great of scorers they are they don't bring out the best in their teammates.

I am not sure which knock is worse, being a great team player but a little too passive in scoring yourself, or being a great scorer but maybe not making your teammates better. Few current NBA players have proven both (Duncan & Wade, younger Shaq, maybe Lebron and Nash).

 

naw, im pretty sure tmac does bring out the best in his teammates...

 

Neither Tmac nor Kobe has a single playoff series victory where they were their teams #1 guy. Neither player was lead their team to even a top 4 regular season record if I recall. Finally, both I think even had series leads (3-2 if not 3-1) and didn't close them.

So it is every bit as relevant to question Tmac's resume for his lack of playoff success, poor team records, and question his ability to bring out the best in his teammates (same is true for Kobe), as it is to question the resume of KG for being too passive. Maybe all these are wrong, maybe Kobe and Tmac are leaders who bring out the best in teammates and who get teammates to want to go through walls for them, and maybe KG is a lot more clutch and dominant offensively than you guys give him credit for, but there are equally valid concerns IMO.

Few players have the complete resume (individual dominance, team leadership, playoff success)--Duncan and Wade are probably the only two in their prime right now. But some others are closer to that resume: Nash (two MVPs and leading his team to the WCF three times) and Lebron (success his 1st playoffs, 4th seed with pretty crappy teammates--the excuse Kobe or Tmac might try, on the cusp of ECF). KG, Kobe and Tmac IMO have more work to do.

 

Performance in the playoffs is a better way of judging player skills than "leading a team out of the first round".

KG at his career best couldn't get of the first round until Cassel and Sprewell came along, even though he was arguably a top 5 player in the NBA at the time. Also, Duncan+ Parker without Ginobili -- 2 less championships

Supporting cast is everything. "Carrying your team out of first round" is overrated.

 

McGrady needs to be healthy for the length of this coming season. If Yao is as well, and the supporting cast stays reasonably healthy (and god, I sure hope we aren't through adding to the cast!), I think Tracy will show everyone how far he can take this team. In my opinion, pretty damned far.

(I know... you're going by past history. I don't want to hear it! )

 

Mcgrady performs in the playoffs better than anyone did last playoffs, yes.. even wade. Did anyone double team wade as they did against tmac? NO that is because Heat has so many offensive weapons. Remember against the mavs, tmac defended dirk AND avg. +30 ppg +7 rpg +7 apg or something like that. his passes to Yao are just like wow.. and because of those double team, guys like barry and mj and wesley got loose for all those 3s. KG is good, but he isnt explosive. You basically just need one good defender on him.

 

THIS IS TMAC'S TEAM!

 

I think this is Yao's team now....
Also, I like the inside/outside game with Yao and Tmac and I wouldn't mess that up with bringing in another paint player....

However, we all will be kicking ourselves next year if Mcgrady goes down again....The thing I like about KG over Mcgrady is his heart...KG plays with alot more emotion and you can see it in his play...the guy LOVES the game for all the righ reasons and really is in it to win...I'm not saying TMAC is not but he doesn't have the same emotion that I see in KG....i've see TMAC smiling and laughing when the rockets are getting blown out, which really bothers me alot (well, i'm sure most of the leauge is like that)....I've watched alot of KG, and when they lose, he is PISSED!!! I like that in a player...

However, I still wouldn't do it because TMAC has much more upside...

 

The fact is: The rockets will be stuck with T-Mac at the time when they made the blown out trade. Who cares if he is smiling if he can bring all the stuff he's got, I guess it is the whole package. If he did not perform well due to injury or whatever reason, I do not think Rox would be able to get rid of him for any promising value.

 

Besides, T-Mac is absolutely not for any one on one trade, ABSOLUTELY none.

 

No offense but TMAC is close to being done in my opinion.

 

LOVE TMAC, HOPE HE IS HEALTHY AND WILL BE WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS FOR US FOR YEARS TO COME...THAT SAID, GIVEN THE ONGOING HEALTH CONCERNS OF TMAC, ANYONE WHO WOULDNT WELCOME THIS TRADE IS LOOKING AT TMAC THROUGH ROCKET ROSE COLORED GLASSES...YOU COULD CLOSE YOUR EYES AND HOPE TMAC STAYS HEALTHY, BUT WITH EYES WIDE OPEN, ID BET ON KGs DURABILITY OVER TMACs.

 

I love T-Mac almost as much as the next fan but if we trade him we need a pure shooter in return, and those are in short supply (Ray Allen, Michael Redd).

Would we win more games with Yao/Battier/TMac?

Or with Yao/Battier/KG?

If you had KG in the high post, etc etc, that'd be one fearsome frontcourt. But it's all just academic.

 

If we could get KG and a pure shooter as you mentioned in a 3 team trade, I would do it..other wise, no....anyways, its never going to happen so i'll just let it go....

 

I would rather have multiple championships.

Foye and KG would be great complements to Yao & Battier.

A big PG who can defend and shoot the 3 would further balance this team. It would be a great mixture of athleticism (KG, Buike, Snyder, Foye) and long range shooting (Battier, Novak, Foye).