Do you support the actions of Israel or Hezbollah?

read Blood Brother by Dr. Elias Chacour. He's a Jesus Freak Palestinian who won the Nobel Peace Prize at some point. His family lived in a village called Biriam for many generations. Israelis came to their towns with guns and told them all to leave for a time under Israel's eye. When they returned finally to their village, their homes were bulldozed. They were not allowed to return and rebuild. There is no justice in that, Roxran. I can not defend that.

here's a brief excerpt about him from Wikipedia, followed by a quote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_Chacour

Father Chacour was born November 29, 1939 in the village of Biram in Upper Galilee in British Palestine to a Palestinian Christian family, members of the Melkite Catholic Church. At the age of eight, like many Palestinians, he was evicted, along with his whole village, by the Israeli authorities and became a deportee and a refugee in his own country. Because he remained in his homeland, he was granted citizenship of Israel when the state was created in 1948.

"You who live in the United States, if you are pro-Israel, on behalf of the Palestinian children I call unto you: give further friendship to Israel. They need your friendship. But stop interpreting that friendship as an automatic antipathy against me, the Palestinian who is paying the bill for what others have done against my beloved Jewish brothers and sisters in the Holocaust and Auschwitz and elsewhere. And if you have been enlightened enough to take the side of the Palestinians -- oh, bless your hearts -- take our sides, because for once you will be on the right side, right? But if taking our side would mean to become one-sided against my Jewish brothers and sisters, back up. We do not need such friendship. We need one more common friend. We do not need one more enemy, for God's sake."

 

And where do you live? Do we as Americans have more rights to this Native Americans' land than Jews have to their ancestral homeland?

 

it's a shame it'll take more than booze and small pox to kill off the palestinians.

 

That kind of stuff definitely happened. Many Palestinians were wronged. I used to work with and was friends with a Palestinian who had this happen to his family. Wrong or not, it shouldn't be taken out of context. At the time, there were horrendous things occurring on both sides, and being forcibly evicted by either side was better than what was occurring to others.

BTW, are you familiar with what happened to the Jews in Arab countries during that time? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands

 

Do you have anything useful to add?

 

Nice post, but that does not specifically refute my contention that last month? or last year? or last century?, Israel has been the second puncher...(and unfairly called out for it in many instances) No country is righteous all the time in it's history. Certainly not the U.S., but given the comparison based on action versus response, I will stand by Israel with confidence...

 

I hope so, he has shown he can be capable of it (somewhat)...I invite him to do so here.

 

Sorry, I just felt like being an ass... I don't wish anything else to that argument.

 

there is nothing i could say or do to change your position, roxran.

 

i am familiar with that, and it's horrible.

it goes back so far...i don't believe there's any good guys left in this struggle. i'm not saying there's not good individuals. i mean, collectively.

"we were demeaned!! we were treated like scum!! we lost our homes! our childrens suffered! the only solution??? let's do it to them!!!!" --- i'm sorry, but this is not a good enough answer for me.

 

I think this poll is intentionally misleading. Maybe you should specifiy the actual actions you asked about, so that you won't add "selective" actions in to spin at will, and lable any votes at will.

 

Although I am Jewish, I still try to look at the situation objectively. There are wrongs on both sides of the battle. If Israel were to remain with a defensive standpoint, I could side with them more. They have taken our new policy of shoot first and I can't defend that. I also cannot defend a group of people who simply wish me dead for reasons I cannot fathom. I cannot defend people who walk into a crowded mall and murder hundreds of innocent people merely out on a shopping trip. At the same time, I cannot defend bombing (on purpose or on accident) an apartment building full of women and children.

But when I see this...

I get angry. This is anti-semitism at it's finest. This I cannot defend, no matter what.

 

What's worse is that most people in the conflict are fighting the war their grandfathers started... I would hope that new generations can see that the present course of action isn't working. Unfortunately, things seem to escalate with every new generation.

 

You can add ChrisBosh to the list, he voted for Hezbollah. LET THE WITCH HUNT BEGIN!!! BURN! BURN! BURN!

 

LOL....i was for jokes.

 

What kind of poll is this? Part of the problem with this whole situation is the idea that we can take sides. This is a problem that isn't answered by some binary good side-bad side logic. Both sides have made some serious blunders and neither side can really claim much more moral superiority over the other.

It's the same problem with the Israeli-Palestinian situation. Supporting one side implies that that specific side should gain more in any final solution to the conflict. However, that sort of attitude is part of the problem. The idea that your favored "side" in this conflict should get more than the other is what is preventing any sort of compromise and real resolution to anything.

I'm sure everyone here is "pro-peace," it's simply a question of how you achieve that peace. I suppose the poll should be about what a specific solution to the problem should be. But to have a poll suggesting that we should pick one side over the other seems ridiculous.

 

relax this is a message board...everyone is going to have different views...some are going to be racists others will be anti-israel.. fact is people like em will always be around, no matter what...no need to get angry.

 

Anti-Semitism is nothing to be laughed at, my friend.

 

and yet, clearly there are those here and in the world who are doing that exactly. so it makes the poll so ridiculous, because it addresses the reality of the situation.

 

I support those who pretend that they are spiritually superior to everybody else on the internet by saying they're not.