Camelot (Mario Tennis/Golf, Golden Sun) to Pull Nintendo Support?

First Sony pissed them off and they left. Now they are leaving Nintendo. They are running out of places to go.

I wonder, though, what the reasoning behind this was. I think Nintendo may have been just as happy to let them go.

Oh well...if they want to get into the PC online market, more power to them.

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come to microsoft and make some games for the 360

 

I own their sports titles, but they've lacked originality and depth. They're fun party games, but not worth the asking price at launch.

I guess Camelot wants a challenge instead of making easy money.

 

Eh, they're okay.

The only title from them that I remotely cared about was Mario Tennis, and I'm sure there are other companies that could have done just as good of a job as they did.

I know I never cared to find out what Camelot was making next.

 

Yeah I just got an Xbox 360 and it would be sweet if they moved all those titles to Xbox. It wouldn't happen since Nintendo would never let them use Mario on Xbox.

 

There'll probably be a million Mario Parties for the Wii even w/o Hal Labs. Besides Camelot's RPGs, it's not really a big deal.

 

I mistook Hudson for Hal.

The biggest knock on the MP series is its originality and how all versions still sell for 40 bucks a pop.

There wasn't that much jump with the Mario Golf or Mario Tennis sequels to give it such a great rating.

These series thrive on simple and fun formulas. It will work nicely with Nintendo oversight if another developer picks it up. With the new controller setup, it'll cover up Camelot's departure even more.

Any RPG for a Nintendo console is great news because there aren't many on the system. Many are announced though....

If Camelot were ready to take their RPGs onto a console with 3D graphics, then one would've been out by now. Camelot's shift is into an undeveloped Japanese PC market that doesn't emphasize gaming rigs. Imo, the wait would've been as long as finally getting a console Fire Emblem or a console Earthbound...if it ever comes out.

Handheld fans will feel the loss, but that's mainly where it'll be felt.

 

Granted I just bought the 360 like 6 days ago....but something is bothering me. I know it's only been a year and we still have yet to see the PS3 and Wii in action, but as far as the 360, is this what next gen is? Is this it?

The lack of titles available after a year on the market seems a little weird to me. I'm afraid the 360 may meet the fate of it's older brother black hole gen 1.

Don't get me wrong the 360 looks great and the Xbox live dashboard/marketplace/live arcade are pure genius. The game library is one of my concerns...let me list some games that are probably highly anticipated for the 360 this year.

1)gears of war
2)madden 07
3)Splinter Cell
4)NBA 2K7
5)NBA Live '07
6)Saints Row
ect, ect

unless I'm missing something(which i probably am), this doesnt' seem to excite me. Where are all the japanese developers for the 360?

I just hope gears of war really really lives up to the hype and can become that killer app that it claims it can be.

RC, I know you've probably answered this question before, in the long run, is the 360's weaker specs vs. the ps3 going to spell an earlier end?

Will it reach it's processing potential in 2 years? This life of the 360 doesn't seem that long to me especially in 2-3 years when games start to become massive and demand high density disc formats of some kind...

All in all, it's a great console for the foreseable 2-3 years, but I think they rushed this thing to the market.

 

The overall reaction I've gotten from people regarding this has been pretty "Meh..." I think some may even see it as a blessing if it means the team behind Mario Strikers/Soccer gets to do more Mario sports games...

God would I love another REAL Shining Force game though... Shining Force II and Phantasy Star IV were what turned me into an RPG kid... I want sequels true to both's roots, dammit!

 

I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard 3rd party developers were holding off on releasing/developing some games on XBOX 360 because it is more profitable for them to wait and have a simultaneous release with the PS3.

 

There is no way to know that. Some people theorize that PS3's high price will stilt its entry into the market, narrowing the gap between Sony and MS from last generation. If PS3's marketshare drops significantly, then those devs - despite what specs are what - will gravitate to wherever they can get the most money.

Don't forget, PS2 was technically inferior last generation when the XBOX came out, and that didn't matter.

Beyond that, Wii will not have 'next gen' graphics, so that experience is different.

It all depends on what you expect out of 'next gen'. I always thought that that phrase was way too hyped even before the 360 came out. People had pretty wild expectations. I look at something like GRAW, what I've seen of Dead Rising so far, same for Gears of War, and I see noticeable improvement.

Personally, I think 360's first year (once we get to November and the releases up to that point) is a little stronger than XBOX's was, game wise. Hell, I didn't even buy an XBOX in the first year.

And I really think it is rare to see a new console - any new console - have an impressive lineup in its first year. There's a reason most people say that early adopters get shafted.

 

The PS3 has always had the Japanese market in its pocket. Wii games will be different from the rest, and a foreign console has never been sucessful there. The games you'll see from Japan come from MS bribing their way in. They're crucial for the 360 to crack Japan, but some of those Japanese developers aren't exclusive....

I think the 360 had excellent timing if they had resolved their supply issues sooner. An HDDVD drive would've added another couple hundred bucks to the 360. The 360's specs are weaker, but the PS3's learning curve is said to be higher than the PS2.

As for disk issues, several PC games run resolutions higher than 1080i and they're still crammed into DVDs. And the prettier the textures that guarantees high resolutions, the higher the development costs.

So the Xbox isn't really rushed. Sony is pulling in a giant and they're expecting consumers and developers to foot the bill. There's no indication the market or the economy will want to. imo, Sony has a shorter window to prove it's far superior than the Xbox. Otherwise, there's no way to justify its price despite the PS3's higher ceiling.

 

so are dreamcast games really come to xbox live arcade or was taht just a rumor? It would be cool if they made the entire library available... even though I have a dusty dreamcast sitting around somewhere

 

The 360 has a hard disk drive. Are games loaded onto the drives for those who do have one? If not, I hope that option appears soon.

Regardless, I still think HDDVD or BluRay drives are more of a convenience than 'must have' for 720p games.

If that convenience is an extra 200 bucks in the asking price of a console, then I'm gonna choose the DVD version.

As for load times on HDDVD or BluRay, an HDD is a given if devs want to reduce it to under a couple minutes. Especially when the technology is new and the max speeds for these drives isn't even out yet.