Get a vet PG, shooter, and thug PF all in one player.

LOL @ the m_cable impression. Very good read nontheless. Thanks a lot.

 

Any trade thread that involves dealing Juwan Howard as the centerpiece for a desirable NBA player should be moved to the random trade thread and the threadstarter should be demoted to Rookie.

 

Dunleavy's not bad, he just has a ridiculous albatross of a contract. Golden State would love to give him up, that's not an issue.

Here's the question: How do the Rockets get him? That one's a lot harder to answer.

 

Van Gundier, that a nice post. I just have a question, How does Thugleavy compare and differ from Murphy? I'm not sure who's more of a thug, but Murphy like Dunleavy can shoot. I don't know much about their defense. Though Dunleavy can handle the point and Murphy can't, i don't suppose we'll need him to having TMAC there. I'm not trying to negate your suggestion, just a few things that i'm not clear on....Thanks!

 

http://img1.tianyablog.com/photo/2006/7/14/1808789_2138550.jpg

 

I would take him in a heartbeat for Howard, he has been much maligned but is just starting to come into his own.

YES PLEASE...we need more DUKE players.

DD

 

van gundier...this thread is a joke, right? let's hope!

 

could we use our 4.2 million TE instead of trading head or a conditional 1st?

 

Points well taken, except not a PG a PForward, and definitely not a thug. No way. $27 mil v $45 is why you could get him, and I'd do the deal. Even with Head. NO to any picks, unless Rox receive some.

GS has reportedly wanted to move both him and TM. I'd prefer Murph but JuHo isn't enough of a savings to effect that.

Is Junior worth the $$$ commitment? Only if viewed as JuHo must go + $18mm to budget.

 

No, you can't mix players and TE. I thought i'd tell you first rather have someone scream at you for asking that on this board for the 100th time. Just watching out for feloow rookies!

 

I'm not that fond of Dunleavy. He regressed big time after signing his big extension. His numbers last year were pretty horrendous. And he doesn't have one defining skill except that he can handle the ball pretty well for his size. Although his unimpressive first step tempers the benefit of his dribbling ability. At best he'll be another Battier, but making 1/3 more in salary.

The only good thing I can say about him is that his value has pretty much hit rock bottom. A team could probably land him for expiring contracts and a pick. But the problem is that he's a Base-Year Compensation guy, so a trade wouldn't be that easy to make. It would likely need to be expanded in order to work under the cap.

So considering our assets and the cost/benefit of adding Dunleavy, I don't really see him as an option.

 

Okay, that deserves it's own thread. I hope you don't mind.

 

Dunleavy is sorry and his contract aint no joke

 

I found a way for the trade to work

Houston Trades:

Juwon Howard
Bob Sura
Luther Head
Ryan Bowen
Dikembe Mutombo


Houston Recieves:

Mike Dunlavy
Adonal Foyle
Mikeal Pietrus



I mean Golden State would get to dump their 2 worst contracts on us. We pick up Pietrus, which is a good move, he would come in and probaly end up the starter at the 2 guard spot. He plays defense and can hit a 3 pointer. Would fit in very nicely with the team.(Defense would keep him on the court) Foyle would end up taking the back up center job that Mutombo was doing, albiet for 5 times the price. At this point he is alot better than Deke though, Plays more minutes, more games and is more consistant. Still, he is not worth the price. It would give us the best Center/Backup combo for the rest of the decade though. Finally Dunlavy can come in, bulk up and try and play the 4. Its a trade that would yeild 2 starters and Yao's backup.

We lose Head. Howard is a throw away as is Bowen. Sura probably wont last past this season if he even does and is simply a throw away, although we have enough in our MLE to sign someone to a one year deal if we need to, to make the salaries work. Mutombo and Foyle are a wash although Mutombo is a more affordable wash.



I doubt we'd do this deal simply because the salaries, mainly Foyle's salary, its monstrous and Les isn't going to pay a luxury tax on a backup center. That would probably be the only roadblock in the deal, but one of the biggest motivating factors for the Warriors to pull the trigger. We would spend the next 6 years trying to trade him, maybe a team would be crazy enough if he had a good postseason one year. Picking up Pietrus and Dunlavy would almost be worth it if we were sure Dunlavy could handle heavy minutes at the 4.

 

His 5 year contract violates the 4 year max rule - i.e. we need to free up cap space for the summer of 2010 when LeBron and Wade can become unrestricted free agents.

 

awesome!!!!

 

Remember when Tom Tolbert said that he'd take Dunleavy over Yao and that a lot of GM's agreed with him?

 

Today we solute you Mr. Preposterous Trade Suggester. You actually suggest trading the eleventh and twelfth man on the roster for a six time all star, and justify it with paragraphs that convince yourself that it could be done. With you managing the team you would throw caution to the wind and concoct a 5 team 23 player deal including the car valet at the stadium. So crack open an Ice Cold Bud Light Mr. Preposterous Trade Suggester.

 

Following this trade request - Would the Rockets give the Warriors cap relief for shorter term contracts (Bowen/Sura/Mutombo)?

What else would Golden State give to the Rockets to take back Foyle? 1st Rounder or 2 2nd Rounders?


Houston Trade Breakdown

Outgoing
Ryan Bowen
6-9 SF from Iowa
1.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.7 minutes
Dikembe Mutombo
7-2 C from Georgetown
2.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.1 apg in 14.9 minutes
Juwan Howard
6-9 PF from Michigan
11.8 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.7 minutes
Bob Sura
6-5 from Florida State
No games yet played in 2005/06

Incoming
Mike Dunleavy
6-9 SF from Duke
11.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.9 apg in 31.9 minutes
Adonal Foyle
6-10 C from Colgate
4.5 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 0.4 apg in 23.7 minutes
Change in team outlook: +0.3 ppg, -2.4 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

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