[Breaking news] Two Hezbollah attacks on UN observers

I haven't seen any or at least very minimal support for Hezbollah. I am against hezbollah, but I am also against the current Israeli action.

I've said many times, and I will say again, there are no good guys in this one.

 

tell that to Nimitz or MacArthur in WW2. its war, civilians will be killed. they know the risk for playing with the enemy.

 

Tell that to Hitler too, while you're in your time machine.

 

But why should Israel place it's troops in more danger than necessary?

It seems like they should do what they are doing now. They aren't specifically targeting civilians, but just incidentally killing them. It seems like a poor situation for Lebanese, but isn't it their government's fault for having Hezbollah in the country in the first place?

 

I fail to see the connection you are drawing between Hitler and Nimitz. Could you explain it to me?

I feel like Hitler is a name that gets tossed into many analogies because of the associative baggage that comes along with the name.

 

Kofi is worthless. He stands for nothing and falls for everything.

 

Methods used in WWII is precisely why we have the laws we have today. Unspeakable crimes were committed during WWII. Imagine the horror and destruction of that war...now imagine how far more destructive that war would have been using today's state-of-the-art weaponry and the various nations with nuclear arsenals capable of wiping out entire civilizations within a matter of minutes. Now you understand why we had to have conventions governing the conduct of war. It was either that or risk extermination of the human race.

 

It would be much better if Israeli soldiers tried walking up to suspected Hezbollah members and asked if they had a Hezbollah ID card (a little trickery I know) before opening fire. Usually Hezbollah marches in order like the Redcoats but lately there's been some confusion for some reason.

 

This might be the most insightful statement made here today. Kofi completely lacks any leadership skills and conviction. The guy is as spineless as they come. My favorite Kofi moment was when Madeline Albright punked him by reminding him who was responsible for him getting his job.

 

Um...no. Hezbollah is Lebanese and is deeply rooted in Lebanon's Shi'ite community, which makes up roughly 40-45% of Lebanon's population. They have far more support than most are willing to admit, and now it looks like they are going to force the international community to work with them and realize that Hezbollah is going nowhere.

 

LOL! No, gwayneco, that's not what I am saying. I am saying no one seemed to take them seriously enough until nuclear weapons came around. Notice that much of the 'Geneva Conventions' was drafted/revised after 1949.

 

Well its easy for the West and for people who are clueless to just lump Hezbollah with Al Queda as part of a worldwide Islamic fanatic terrorist front and therefore part of the so-called "war on terror". The problem as you well know, but most don't realize, is that this is very simplistic and flawed analysis. Hezbollah is really more of a nationalist militia group like the ANC, PKK, IRA, Tamil Tigers, etc than a fanatical ideological terrorist group. In fact it doesn't even espouse any longer espouse a Shiite Islamic state in Lebanon never mind any worldwide Islamic revolution.

Just like those aforementioned groups, Hezbollah has a lot of local support for a variety of reasons dating from the Lebanese Civil War. You can't really defeat a group like that militarily unless you plan to annihilate the Lebanese Shiite population. And of course this conflict has only helped recruit more Hezbollah in the near future.

Now maybe the West understand the nature of Hezbollah and this painting them as part of the worldwide Islamic terrorist front is just propanganda. OTOH, maybe the West is truly clueless...One can never underestimate the ignorance of Western govt when it comes to these matters.

 

...and i'll say it again the good guys are our friends, the Israelis who are fighting the Islamic facists.

 

That's why I said it's silly to compare Hezbollah -- or even Hamas -- to Al-Qaeda. To do so is not only 'inaccurate', but will prove to be counterproductive and disastrous for the U.S. if we were to fall into that trap, which is being set for us by the 'usual suspects'.

I was watching FNC and they mentioned that Hezbollah's support in Lebanon is "almost 90%", with their support among Christian Lebanese going up from nearly 30% just last year to 87% at the moment.

There goes the hope that Lebanon would 'turn against Hezbollah', instead, they're rallying behind them.

I continue to question whether or not our so-called foreign policy 'experts' truly understand the nature of people in the region, they seem to 'presume' things a bit too much, and seem to always be wrong.

 

Numerous Arab governments in the past (and in the present) have fought 'Islamic facists'...do they get your praise, as well?

Actually, don't answer that...I know, I know, "may they slowly twist the knife into the w****"...

 

LOL,...

 

The same way you'd want to have the cops going in your house and manually eliminates kidnappers instead of blowing it up along with you and terrorists. Geez, I see the Israel favoritism makes people ask dumb questions.

For the Israel apologists, if Israel forces killed an UN observer who was near Hezbollah, I'd fully expect them to say that the evil Hezbollah guys were using the UN worker as a human shield, and it was necessary to kill, or OK to kill the UN worker in order to waste the bad guys. Since now it's the UN worker with IDF injured, that is the other way around, I'm not surprised to see they accuse Hezbollah of attacking the UN personel.

It's interesting that under the sway of Israel favoritism nobody is doubting the IDF was using the UN worker as a human shield.