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[CHRON] Houston Could Lose River Oaks Theatre to Barnes & Noble?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Jeff, Jul 22, 2006.

  1. Jeff

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    WTF???

    We could lose both River Oaks Theatre and the Alabama Theater Bookstop (nevermind Three Brothers Bakery) to a ****ing Barnes & Noble??? You have GOT to be ****ting me.

    ENDANGERED LANDMARKS
    Historic theater could soon fade into history
    Tenants told of unconfirmed plan to raze portions of the River Oaks Shopping Center
    By LISA GRAY
    Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

    Three Houston landmarks, including the Landmark River Oaks Theatre and the Bookstop in the former Alabama Theater, have been declared endangered by the Greater Houston Preservation Alliance.
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    The alliance has learned, spokesman David Bush said Friday, that two buildings in the River Oaks Shopping Center could face demolition within two years.

    The center is controlled by Weingarten Realty Investors, a Houston-based company that owns and manages about 300 retail properties in the southern United States.

    A Weingarten spokeswoman would not confirm the company's plans for the shopping center.

    "We don't have any official statement at this time," Amy Jones, Weingarten's director of marketing, said Friday. Other Weingarten officials did not return phone calls.

    The GHPA has repeatedly tried to discuss the buildings with Weingarten Realty but has been rebuffed, Bush said.

    But a half-dozen tenants of the River Oaks Shopping Center told the Houston Chronicle that a Weingarten's leasing agent informed them of plans to raze parts of the historic shopping center.

    The first domino to fall, they said, would be the River Oaks Shopping Center building at the northeast corner of Shepherd and West Gray. Erected in 1937, the curved art deco building is "of national significance," architecture historian Stephen Fox said.

    Three Brothers Bakery co-owner Robert Jucker said that when he confronted the leasing agent about rumors the building was to be demolished, she confirmed them, and told him that it would remain standing through the end of this year. "But she wouldn't give me that in writing," he said.

    The bakery, located for 17 years in the strip between the Black-Eyed Pea restaurant and Jos. A. Bank clothing store, is on a month-to-month lease, Jucker said.

    A number of River Oaks Shopping Center tenants — including owners of Archway Gallery, Chase's Closet and Laff Stop — said that a Weingarten's leasing agent told them the Black-Eyed Pea building would be replaced with a multistory Barnes & Noble.

    Archway is located near the River Oaks Theatre on the south side of West Gray. At a meeting with the gallery's owners in March, a Weingarten's leasing agent detailed the company's plans to tear down their entire building — including the theater — in early 2008, Archway co-owner Marsha Harris said.

    Weingarten offered the gallery other accommodations until its lease runs out in December 2008, she said.

    "They're proceeding apace," Harris said. "I think it's real stupid and short-sighted if they pull that theater down."

    Harris and other tenants said their leasing agent described plans to erect a high-rise residential building in the theater's place — possibly preserving part of the theater's exterior, but none of its art deco interior.

    Opened in 1939, the River Oaks is Houston's oldest functioning movie theater.

    Bill Banowsky, CEO of Landmark Theatres, wrote in an

    e-mail that Landmark is "100 percent committed to the River Oaks Theatre," and that Landmark recently signed a lease extension. Landmark spokeswoman Melissa Raddatz would not say how long that lease lasts.

    Celeste Williams, a lecturer at the University of Houston's Gerald D. Hines School of Architecture, has studied Houston's earliest movie theaters extensively, and notes that in many cities the historic buildings still function either as movie theaters or auditoriums.

    "There aren't many buildings I'd lie down in front of bulldozers to save," she said. "The River Oaks theater is one of them."

    In addition to the two segments of the River Oaks center, the preservation alliance placed the art deco Alabama Shepherd Shopping Center on its endangered list because of fears that Barnes & Noble would close the Bookstop if it built in River Oaks. Weingarten also controls The Alabama Center.

    Responding to questions via e-mail, Barnes & Noble Inc. spokeswoman Carol Brown wrote that the company had "made no announcement of plans to build in the River Oaks Shopping Center." Brown wouldn't say whether such plans existed.

    She also said the chain had no "immediate" plans to move from the Bookstop location.

    In 1989, Bookstop won national attention for its creative preservation of the Alabama movie theater, built in 1939. Nine years later, Barnes & Noble bought the Bookstop chain.

    Houston's historic preservation laws are among the weakest in the country, and the vast majority of the city's historic buildings can be destroyed without even a waiting period for public comment.

    Preservationists have responded by mounting intelligence operations to ferret out plans to raze historic buildings.

    Those "cloak-and-dagger operations," Bush said, "are sad, but it's what we've got to do if we're going to draw public attention before the bulldozers arrive."
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    Pardon my french, but this is some BULLS***
     
  3. Jeff

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    Agreed. What's so frustrating is that there are already multiple Bookstops (owned by B&N) and Barnes and Nobles within a few miles. Why destoy landmarks for a disposable chain store? Why not build over in the warehouse district like Target is doing off Taylor and I-10? Cheaper land and no destruction of anything that anyone cares about.
     
  4. bejezuz

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    Ehhh, I'm not a native Houstonian, so this doesn't bother me so much. I saw Capote at the River Oaks during January and had to wear my coat the whole time because there was no heat. The seats were the second worst I've ever sat in (the lecture-hall style seats in of the Union Theater at UT are the worst), and the walls were so thin that I could hear the soundtrack of the film next door.

    Needless to say, I haven't been back. The open bar is a nice touch, but for my movie dollars, I'd rather go get my indie-fix at the Angelika or the Greenway 3.
     
  5. Rocket G

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    Dude, you are so missing the point here...
     
  6. count_dough-ku

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    I wouldn't miss it that much. The upstairs theaters suck, and while I enjoy the occasional midnight movie revival(I've seen both Goldfinger and the Lon Chaney Phantom of the Opera there), I hate how they charge full ticket price for it.

    The Alamo Drafthouse only costs 4 bucks for screenings of The Godfather and an upcoming showing of Wrath of Khan. And their auditoriums are only marginally inferior to the giant downstairs one at the River Oaks 3.
     
  7. thadeus

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    ****ing disgusting.

    When I was a kid in Michigan, there was a theater in town called "The Lyric." It was an old vaudeville theater. They still had the tall neon marquee outside that said "the LYRIC" in neon green. They still had the traditional glass box-office in the front, with lightbulb-framed "coming soon" attractions flanking it on either side. Inside, there were Roman columns painted on the walls, surrounded by cherubim and vines. The ceiling was painted like two giant openings into a blue sky. There was an orchestra pit in front of the screen with an old piano sitting in it, and four balcony windows with rows of seats behind them pegged with old velvet curtains looked out over the theater. The screen was HUGE, and also draped by curtains.The theater was a bit musty, the seats weren't exactly easy chairs, and some of the paint could have used a touch-up, but it was beautiful.

    I left town, and came back for a short visit 5 years later. GKC theaters had, apparently, bought the Lyric. They took down the 2 story-tall neon sign outfront and the old marquee, removed the box office, and converted the interior into 4 smaller theaters. I didn't go inside. I stood across the street, trying to tamp down a real, visceral desire to commit arson.

    Ah, real estate. Nothing's more important than profit. Nothing even comes close to the sweet success of razing the memory of a city and trading it in for a chromed-out Hummer, a corner office, and a buttload of cash. I wonder when the museum district is going to be turned into a Super Wal-Mart?
     
  8. Faos

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    I think they should tear down the Astrodome and put up an HEB while they are at it.
     
  9. MR. MEOWGI

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    I went back to ohio
    But my city was gone
    There was no train station
    There was no downtown
    South howard had disappeared
    All my favorite places
    My city had been pulled down
    Reduced to parking spaces
    A, o, way to go ohio

    Well I went back to ohio
    But my family was gone
    I stood on the back porch
    There was nobody home
    I was stunned and amazed
    My childhood memories
    Slowly swirled past
    Like the wind through the trees
    A, o, oh way to go ohio

    I went back to ohio
    But my pretty countryside
    Had been paved down the middle
    By a government that had no pride
    The farms of ohio
    Had been replaced by shopping malls
    And muzak filled the air
    From seneca to cuyahoga falls
    Said, a, o, oh way to go ohio


    Life gives us lessons in impermanence - that what we think we "have", we never had nor ever will. Having is illusion, and when we understand that, we are more grateful than anything for everything that comes and goes in and out of our lives.
     
  10. thadeus

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    [​IMG]

    "What's that? Oh, yes, yes, you're absolutely right. Illusions and stuff. Sure. Listen uh..I'll see you later okay?"
     
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    I enjoy the River Oaks Theatre. I don't need all that fancy stadium seating and cushioned seats to enjoy my time. Plus its a lot closer to River Oaks area then driving to downtown everytime I want to see a limited release.
     
  12. BMoney

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    Here's to you, short-sighted yuppies of the world.
     
  13. Deckard

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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  14. Jeff

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    I understand the nature of impermanence, but even Buddhists decried the destruction of ancient Buddha statues in Afghanistan and they still decry the occupation of Tibet. This is a landmark and if it is torn down, I will survive, but I'd rather it not be torn down. Some things are worth fighting for.
     
  15. gifford1967

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    That is some f-ed up sh_t. Some of my fondest memories are of my older brother taking me to movies at the River Oaks. Houston will be a poorer place for its loss.
     
  16. Dr of Dunk

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    I've never been to the theater, but man, I used to live at that Bookstop. That place was great. Talk about a sad day if that happens...
     
  17. Deckard

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    Jeff, I used to live right in that neighborhood in the late '60's and early '70's. This really, really pisses me off. Houston is going to be a sterile hospital room, without a soul, if this keeps up. :(
     
  18. I am a Donut

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    No! That's really rotten news. I saw 2001 and The Shining there. I really love that place.
     
  19. Cohen

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    So every US city is supposed to look the same?

    I was shocked a couple of weeks ago when I found out that the San Antonio Riverwalk now has the likes of County Line, Joe's Crap Shack, and about 3 restaurants were closed to make room for a Landry's steakhouse.

    I saw many International films at River Oaks, and 3 Bros is excellent.
     
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    Sad. I think that's where I saw the 1977 Star Wars. :mad: :(
     

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