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Lets deal with Indy

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Desert Scar, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. Desert Scar

    Desert Scar Member

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    The Pacers have under contract the following legit NBA players
    -M. Daniels (1/2)
    -S Jack (2/3)
    -D. Granger (3/2)
    -Tinsley (1)
    -A. Johnson (1)
    -Jasikevicius (1/2)

    -Fred Jones (2/1) is a restricted free agent for them.

    [They also have rookies in Shawne Williams (3), Orien Greene (2/3) and James White (1).]

    In my opinion any of the above players would be a big asset to the Rockets, and they would consider trading all but probably Granger, Tinsley and Johnson at relatively low cost. Also, it seems to be they are totally stacked at the 1, 2, and even 3, there is no room for Fred Jones return with the current roster. But if we take Jasikevicius (we could use our 4.3 TE) of their hands there might be, maybe even getting a 2nd rounder to do it. Or they could just take the salary savings. Or maybe they would facillitate a S&T with our TE for Jones for minimal comp (future 2nd) seeing as how they probably will lose him anyway.

    So how about we talk with them right now and present the following deals:

    How about facillitate a S&T with Jones using our TE (up to 4.3 mil) and we send them a future 2nd.

    OR

    We take Jasikevicius (and his two years contract with a little over 8 mil left) off their hands with the TE + a future 2nd so they can then resign Jones themsleves or just lower their salary committed to largely redundent guards.

    Either move helps the Rockets and Pacers IMO, and we are one of the few teams with a TE of that size to pull it off.
     
  2. m_cable

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    The pacers have a bunch of pieces, but they're probably looking to land Harrington before doing anything else. I think we'll have to see how the dust settles with that before we could deal with them (Unless we get involved in a three-way to match salaries or something. Although that doesn't appear necessary because Indy ended up signing and trading Peja to the Hornets and have a pretty sizable TE)
     
  3. gucci888

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    Fred Jones for the TE has been discussed quite a bit, I think there has been reports about us being interested in him as well. I wasn't very impressed w/ Jasikevicius last season, he's not very enticing at $4M/season.

    SJax would be a great fit IMO. Not sure if the Pacers want anything we have though. But I would love to add SJax's athleticism and shooting to the team.
     
  4. Desert Scar

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    Yeah, the issue with SJax and Daniels is they don't fit under our TE. If they want to cut salary and reduce redundency, much harder for them to do it.

    He definetly performed below contract for them, I agree. But he is 30 (near his prime), his contract only goes this year + one more, and he can shoot and play both guard positions a little. A much better bet than VSpan (a MUCH less accomplished player internationally, which should give you an idea about VS likely transition/timetable if he does make it in the NBA) or most other FA options at anywhere near 3 mil a year for multiple years. They kick in that 2nd rounder to take him, I think it is a reasonable bet for the Rockets.
     
  5. Van Gundier

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    Let's not help Donnie and Larry get rid of their problems... I'm enjoying that soap opera very much.

    The thought of SJax and M.Daniels in the same backcourt makes me chuckle... don't ruin it for me, please. '
    :D

    Just say no to getting Jack off Indy!
     
  6. battousai

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    pacers maybe would be interested in our TE as they got around 7.6mil? from peja trade. They are definately looking to land al harrington with about 10mils a year as rumor has it that is what he wants. our TE plus their's, they could sign AL without losing much.

    Sjax is a good piece as he can be our starting 2 with synder as his backup, then head.
     
  7. akuma

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    it seems every potential trade brought up involves a future second round pick? don't the Rockets only get one per year? at this rate, the Rockets won't have a second round pick until 2020. :eek:
     
  8. chrispaul3

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    Haha, you're right, both players look very Jamaican to me, haha.

    Anyway, Stephen Jackson would be okay for us. He only shoots the ball at around 41% though, and gets pretty crazy at times. Sometimes he'll take over the game, sometimes he'll go 0-6. He has some very good Finals experience when the Spurs went to win it all in 2003, he basically played Manu's role.

    I like his size and long arms though he is consistent a lot. Great addition to our much depleted backcourt.
     
  9. BimaThug

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    Teams cannot combine trade exceptions.

    If they could, don't you think the Rockets would have combined their $4.2M and $1.7M trade exceptions?
     
  10. chrispaul3

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    Sorry, I meant he is very inconsistent, that's the knock on SJax, his shooting percentages and his inconsistency.
     
  11. candlegreen

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    Sounds like another Derek Anderson to me :p
     
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    Battousai....The man slayer?!?!?!?!?!?!
     
  13. xiki

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    Two deals need to be done before trade barriers fall again, AI and Al Harrington.

    Indy, Philly, C's, Nugs, Warriors are all in the dam of no dam trading 'til those two pieces 'fall'.
     
  14. TMACFORMVP

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    Yup exactly!
     
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    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    i'd do tinsley for Jho, then sign wright.
     
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    if i had to take on of indy's players, id probably want marquis daniels or danny granger. they would never give up granger, however, but daniels would fit in well with us. indy wouldnt trade him though, as they just acquired him from dallas (and we have nobody they want in return)
     
  17. Desert Scar

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    Yes, Granger would not be in play at all.

    I'd much rather have Fred Jones, and probably rather have Jasikevicius, than Daniels.

    Daniels has a pretty bad contract given his limitations (no outside shot in particular).

    Unlike Jasik and probably Jones, the TE would not be in play for Daniels (or S Jac, about the same contracts), making a deal much harder.

    Finally, I'd take S Jac over Daniels if we could come up with something via Howard (but then we need another PF) or Alston that worked for them.
     
  18. matty101

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    Hey guys first post,

    Personally i think Sarunas Jasikevicius would be a perfect fit for the rockets. He is an AMAZING passer and would be a very good asset for Yao because he feeds the ball well into the post. Last year wasnt his best year statistically wise but it was only his first in the NBA and he played in a depleted Pacers team. He was the face of the Euroleague before he came to the NBA and although the Euroleague isnt close to the NBA standard, he was chased by many NBA teams for a long time before he finally went to Indianna. During the 2000 and 2004 Olympics he TOTALLY dominated his oppositon. I read that he averaged 23.7 ppg against the USA during those 2 olympics which just shows his potential. I definantly think he is worth the full MLE in a sign and treade. (I think thats possible)

    Cheers, Matty
     
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    If we can some how get Pollard or Foster out of the deal too than I'd say hell yes
     
  20. rserina

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    I don't see why we want Fred Jones when Luther Head is basically the same player, put up better stats as a rookie than Jones has to date, and comes cheaper.
     

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