People don't realize how championship teams are made

Rockets are totally a championship team? Battier a potential superstar??????
JL3 GOOD OFFENSE???????

There goes you credibility...

 

Great thread. Thank you Alirules! You're right.

I'm tired of all the pessimism around here. After the Rockets start winning with this current team so many people around here are gonna jump right back on the wagon and say how wrong they are. At least me and a few others will know they were totally with the team and always believed all along.

THE ROCKETS HAVE TRACY MCGRADY AND YAO MING! Nothing else matters. The Rockets have some solid role players around them and that's what's important. With the Bulls you think Jordan and Quitten, the Lakers Kobe and Shaq, the Heat, Wade and Shaq. Everyone forgets how huge it is to have an inside-outside combo like the one the Rockets have. I'm thinking that a lot of people around here think the Rockets need a ton of big free agent or trade acquisitions because they think of last years team. No one (besides the 2) on the Rockets during their great series two seasons ago was that great of an individual player.

The main things the Rockets role players need to do is hit their 3s and open shots at a good percentage, play solid defense, and do the little things. Tracy, Yao, and JVG will take care of the rest. We don't need another high paid guy. The Howards, Alstons, and Battiers will seem like the Elies, Cassells, and Thorpes if the Rockets just win and go far enough in the playoffs. The negative attitude around here sucks but not all people have undying faith in the team. The bottom line is winning. Everyone would be happy if it was Tracy, Yao, Ryan Bowen, and 9 other players all in Rybo's family tree as long as they went to the Western Conference Finals.

If Tracy and Yao stay healthy, this team is gonna go far in the playoffs. There's just no way around it.

 

That was a horrible post yes we have seen championships made here but thats not to say there is only one way to skin the pig. That is the problem with rockets fans here they live in the past and if everything doesnt happen just like it used to then their pissed open your eyes people their are many ways to win a Title!

 

May i just say "your and idiot".

 

Is that even a phrase?







Well. I realize how championships are made. They're made from happy rays of sunshine when you're feelin' blue.

And winning each playoff round.

 

LAMO! Classic!

 

by spending last 10 years to track LAL, and then make this conclusion above. i'd like to say, what a waste of time. y? didn't u c LAL get a champ coach be4 add pieces on?

bet u got to spend anthor 10 years watching rox fall to confirm ur last 10 years waste in LAL.

time prove.

 

T-mac is always fully healthy up until the point where he gets injured again.

 

Can't you say that about anyone though?

As long as you have Tmac you roll the dice that he is going to be healthy.....and that is what the team is doing.

DD

 

Yes you can say that about anyone.

However anyone/everyone doesn't have a history of chronic injuries and missing time like Tracy does, both in Houston and before.

 

No doubt, he has had some troubles, but usually he does not miss significant time, something like 10-12 games a year or so, which is not too bad.

I will take Tmac for 70 games a year, and take my chances.

Edit - even better than I thought. Eliminating his first couple of years when he was on the bench.

Outside of last year, TMac has been averaging about 74-75 games per year

Especially if you throw out the end of Orlando where he was shut down and the end of last year with the same thing.

Not as injury prone as I thought.

DD

 

Are you kidding me?? I can't believe no one has gotten on this guy thus far. This is almost as ridiculous as saying, "You are not a true American and hate this country if you are against the war." Listen, it's not that black and white in either situation. (Please, I hope this doesn't start a something that needs to be put into Debate and Discussion.)

We are loyal to the Rockets, not specifically to CD or JVG. I understand that they are authority figures in the organization we love, but there are also times when executives (anywhere) make mistakes! To say that you just applaud every move made without question is pure ignorance. We, as fans, have the right to be for or against a decision some <i>guy(s)</i> made in the front office.

Having said all that, I do believe that shane will bring a lot of passion and heart for the game...something we've been lacking. i <i>understand</i> the move we made, but that does not mean that fans can't ever offer criticisms - otherwise, there'd never be any accountability!

I seriously hope you were being sarcastic in both your comments...if you were just joking, then forget i said anything...it's hard to gauge sarcasm in some threads, though, b/c there are people that actually think that way around here.

 

No, he was being serious. He believes. I believe in this team right now.

Here's my biggest beef with your viewpoint and everyone on the other side of the camp. I don't applaud EVERY move the Rockets have made. Guess what, all teams in sports make bad decisions at times. Some players just don't pan out the way they were expected. Now, I'm not gonna go posting in here ridiculing JVG, CD, and whoever.

I think the Rockets could have gotten a little more value out of the Battier/Gay Deal - maybe the 24th pick or something. It didn't happen, though, so I'm not gonna go b**** about it or look like a fool and beg to have them reneg on the deal. It is what it is, and seeing as how I fully support the Houston Rockets, I'm going to look at it positively. Shane Battier is exactly the type of player we need. Rudy Gay could end up being another Eddie Griffin just as easily as he could end up being the next (insert decent SG here). He's all potential right now - the NBA is totally different from the NCAA. Just look at how many great players in college turned out to be busts.

The Rockets have learned from their recent mistakes such as Eddie Griffin. Management didn't have Gay in their 5 players they wanted. They could look stupid for that later, but right now, I trust their decision. They could also look really smart for it, and a lot of people forget about that. They also learned from their mistake on Swift. It's one thing for us to see him in games, but the coaches and people inside the organization are the ones who see him in practice, see his work ethic all the time, they're the ones who judge how good he is at picking up the playbook and such, and so on. Swift just didn't work out. He's another guy who said all the right things but did not perform. I could go on, but the point is, the management has messed up - like everyone else, IT'S SPORTS!

I, however, am going to keep fully supporting this team. I'm looking at it all positively. I remember that the Rockets have the core 2 pieces together. I get incredibly excited because I believe in this team. I believe in quotes like
this:
"It just feels good, I can't believe I'm back on the court. Usually when I first get started working out, my back tightens up. I don't feel anything... I'm way ahead of schedule. This will probably be my best summer yet."

"I'm motivated. I realize you have to fall sometimes. It's how you pick yourself up. I had a down season last year. But I'm going to bounce back."

"With all the negative things that were said about me and the team -- that I'm finished because everybody thinks my body is going to be a problem -- I just had a bad year last season. It was due to injury."

"To have people writing me off like my career is pretty much over, that motivates me. I'm back, and I'm busting my ass every day. I can't wait to get back in that uniform and get back on the court because it's going to be a hell of a season."

"I went through a lot last season, not just the back but personal things. It was a brutal season, man. I was frustrated and discouraged the whole season. Now, I'm more motivated than I've ever been. That's in the past. I'm looking forward to October and coming back even stronger."

That's all I need to know concerning T-Mac. I know he's gonna come out this season like never before to prove all the haters and doubters wrong. I can't wait for him to remind everyone that he was here before Wade. He'll remind everyone that the best player in the league used to be a debate between him and Kobe before he missed significant time last season. Then, you got Yao coming into his prime, enough said. A good deal of solid role players around them are in place. It's not Heat, Mav, or Spur depth, but we don't need it. We don't need to do exactly what they're doing. The Rockets will do great the way they are.

 

Hmmm...where do i start?
i never said i didn't believe. i never said i didn't support my team (which is exactly the point i was making. some people believe our execs made mistakes. it's ridiculous when people like you say that such criticism warrants the term "non-believer" or anything to that effect. i honestly believe we could have gotten battier here w/o giving up all that we did. now that it's a done deal, i'm not bi*ching about it (see my posts in the "Welcome Shane" thread). we are happy to have a player like shane, we think that this season will still be promising, and we'll be supporting the rockets all the way. i never wrote a single letter to the rockets about "un-doing" this trade, and never even supported the idea of putting an ad in the chronicle over the trade, since i knew such efforts were meaningless. however, i (along with many others) are pissed b/c we <i>love</i> this team! blind optimism is not always the best way to "believe." i'm not the type to just sit back and say, "oh, everything will be fine and CD is like Midas." that's not being a die-hard fan...it's being an ignorant one. CD and JVG make an ungodly amount of money and have the best jobs in the world. they have loads of responsibility, so OF COURSE they will get ridiculed for making mistakes.

again, NEVER have i ever said that i don't support the <b>team</b>. i may not support every decision my teams make, nor do i support everything the leaders of this country decide upon. but by no means does that mean that i hate either! please think before you type.

 

I think you misunderstood. I wasn't trying to call you out as a non-believer. I was just saying that I believe in the team the way it is. I didn't say Phil was the one doing those things. I'm not questioning your loyalty as a Rockets fan. We just have a different way of viewing management's decisions.

 

When did VP Cheney start posting here?