Still you. Your original comparison between Yao and Lebron's regular season performance was McGradyless Rockets team. So obviously I'm comparing the both their respective role players without including T-Mac. Even with T-mac, it's stilla toss up to who should have the better team. Lebron plays with no scrubs unlike Yao and T-mac. Those players are proven roles players. The only reason they looked bad during the playoff's is because Lebron has to dominate the ball in order to be effective, which in turn has a lot of his teamates just standing around and watching him.
From a value stand point Lebron is a much more marketable player and brings more value to the franchise. I dont know how many games the cavs have sold out the past two years but but ill go out on a limb to say it was more than the rockets. I really dont know how much China has an impact because they dont buy tickets, or order games etc. But people go to see Lebron. He has all the respect he could have (not all of it deserving, but because of his potential). Yao is gaining respect, and is getting better but most likley he will be remebered as one of the top 7 centers in the league, and Lebron possibly the number 1 or 2 player in the entire league As a value to the team, the way the rules are changing having a Lebron James is much more benificial than having a Yao Ming. People say that Lebron is gonna reach his celing soon, which is probably true. He is already avg 31/6/7 and there isnt much more he can improve on in that respect. but imagine if he gets to 35/8/9/2, those are sick stats that we know he *can achieve. How valuable does that make him? Yaos progress is very refreshing, he was the top center in the league at the begining if the season and became byfar the best center after his injury. I dont see yao going past 31 a game in a season (maybe one or two) unless there are injuries to Mcgrady that put him in the position to score. I think with both of them healthy we can expect 27-29 with 13 rebs and 2-2.5 blocks because yao wil start his 5th year and i am not really sure how good he can become now.
the original question was if yao was going to be traded for lebron wil you do it? as simple as that.. just admit that you didn't take tmac into consideration.. so you just said it.. lebron CAN dominate in the playoffs.. the question is CAN yao dominate in the playoffs.. by the way he did in game 7 when we were down by 40..
The original question was that, but you were comparing the Rockets when McGrady was out. And I was replying to that comparison that you made, not the original question of the thread. I'm not going to garauntee Yao can dominate the playoffs, but he played well as long as he was able to stay on the floor.
that was only one of my questions.. but the main question was What has Yao proven in the playoffs? so far he has not proven it yet.. and its not about dominating.. its about winning.. its okay not to dominate but your team has to win in the playoffs and advance.. and thats what lebron did.. he had to dominate and they won to the 2nd round even taking the pistons to 7 games..
But my reply to you was not directed towards the main question, but one of the comparisons you used as rational. Instead of trying to work loopholes, why don't you try to defend that comparision a little more. Lebron beat the Wizards, which like I said before, wouldn't even be a playoff team in the west. The are the GSW of 2 years ago. And like I said before, I think Lebron is the most untradeable player, but at least I can see that he has been put into a far more favorable position than Yao. But you seem like some hardcore King James fanboy. Which makes me wonder, why are you even here on the Rockets board
okay tell me how may games did yao play with tmac out and how many of those resulted in a win? he untradable because he's in a better team and not because he's really a better player all around? I'm actually a more tmac fan than a james fan.. james is the real thing.. and people who see it that way doesn't mean they're a big fan of james but they just tell it how it is.. are you saying everyone here should blindly ignore james achievements in favor of yao? r you a YOF if I may ask?
No, I'm a Rocket's fan. I defend Yao and T-Mac. So your a T-mac fan more than a James fan, but more of a James fan than a Yao fan? ... ...and I doubt James can win many games if he's playing with wesly, alston, bowen, and howard
so what wrong with admiring james game? its not like i'm the only rox fan who does.. and I doubt I'm the only one who's in favor of a yao for james trade.. hey if it makes the rox better why not.. you're the one who probably only watches sportcenter because james can actually make his teammates around him better.. and he can win MORE games on the rox team with out tmac than yao can win without tmac.. which lineup do you think can actually win more games? rafer wesley/head bogans/bowen howard/swift yao or rafer wesley/head james howard/swift mutombo/swift
The second team looks a lot like the 2003 Orlando Magic. The main difference is the 2003 Tmac is better than Lebron. Do you agree, vlaurelio?
LeBron is a beast offensively. He get's others involved and no one can stop him from scoring. However, who the hell could stop Yao from scoring after he had his foot surgery? NO ONE!!!! If I have to choose between a unstoppable swingman and an unstoppable center, I'm picking the center because they have an impact on both ends of the court. LeBron is a atrocious defender and has NO impact on that side of the ball. I guess you guys would rather have Shaq over Dream too since he averaged more PPG. Assuming Yao really has turned the corner and keeps playing like he did last year, then I'm not taking anyone above him except for Duncan (another stud big man who no one can contain offensively).
I still think Tmac now is better than lebron remember all the rockets-cavaliers games. how tmac schooled lebron?
Honestly. I think Lebron averaged like 7 assists and 7 rebounds because he plays a lot more minutes + he is like the cav's pg..
I absolutely agree with you. I mentioned the 2003 Tmac because, for some reasons, vlaurelio believes this 2006 version of the 2003 Orlando Magic would have done relatively well. rafer wesley/head lebron james howard/swift mutombo/swift
These are the top 3 bigs of all time Russell/Chamberlain/Kareem I'm not ranking them in order, just stating who they are. If I had to pick a #4, I would pick Hakeem. If I had to pick a #5, I would pick Shaq. Yes I believe Hakeem was better than Shaq. And YES I believe Yao will when all is said and done move into that #4 spot. And the fact is you would never trade any of those above players in their primes or not even to their primes yet (Yao) for ANY perimeter player EVER other than Jordan. You could make an argument that you would trade Hakeem or Shaq for prime Bird or prime Magic BUT NOT if it was PRIME Hakeem or PRIME Shaq. LeBron is FAR from prime LeBron, he is FAR from putting himself in the likes of Bird and Magic MUCH less Jordan, and Yao is still heading towards his prime. BOTH players are dealing in terms if potential. Yao's potential is MUCH higher than LeBron's. IMO because I believe Yao's ceiling is #4 big ever, and in actuality, that would mean he would be the #5 player ever. LeBron IMO will NEVER be better than prime Hakeem or prime Shaq. But I believe yao will do it and prove all the haters and doubters wrong. Again the only non-big player you would trade for anyone above Hakeem would be Jordan, and I feel Yao will surpass Hakeem and I seriously do not think LeBron will equal Jordan. And for the people who keep insisting that LeBron brings in more revenue than Yao, if you are going to argue a point then at least get it correct. Yao is the 2nd biggest cash cow in league history after Jordan, and Yao brings in considerably more cash than LeBron. Do your homework. Forbes as well as other sources, have stated Yao is #1.
I hope you are right which will be great for Rockets. IMO, I don't think so because of Yao lack of speed on the court.
Yao won't ever have Hakeem's help D or lateral quickness, I definitely factor that in. Even with that I think he will be better than Hakeem was. If Yao had better lateral movement and was a bit faster he would be Chamberlain dominant.
What is the reason that make you think Yao will be better than Hakeem? Skill-wise not to mention quickness, Hakeem is ranked one of the best if not the best. At the moment, what I can think of, Yao is taller than Hakeem which is about it, other than that I come out with a blank.
