Jacquescas: I hear what you are saying and I can agree that we could replace Luther Head, but a second-round pick in this year's draft will not bring us what Head would this year. And I am still not as sold on Roy as everyone else. He is very good, but I don't see him as appreciably better than Brewer, who we likely could get at the #8. I guess this team just has too many holes to fill for these two draft choices and the MLE, and a Brewer/Head tandem would take care of the two for at least the next two seasons.
You know, I think a lot of this "jack of all trades but master of none" stuff is innacurate. I would guess a lot of it has to do with perception. Let me explain... If my stats look like this... 12ppg 2rpg 1.2apg 41%FG 40%3PT 74%FT What would people say about me? Well they'd most likely say "he's not strong in any particular category, but he's a great 3PT shooter". Now what if my stats look like this... 21ppg 6rpg 4.1apg 51%FG 40%3PT 80%FT What would people say about me? Well they SHOULD be saying that I'm a very good scorer and rebounder, a good passer, a great shooter especially from 3, and an excellent FT shooter. Yet, these are basically Roy's stats and he is considered "solid or good at everything...not great at anything". It doesn't make sense to me. Maybe if one of his categories was clearly less impressive than the others, it would make people perceive his stats differently. I think it's more like "Great at everything...not spectacular at anything". Anybody understand what I'm saying?
Yes, I got you man. Its funny how people always have to knock a player on something. This guys is definately no Reece Gaines. If you had to bring them up in the same sentence, I'd say Reece Gaines wishes he could be as good as Roy is coming out of college.
Exactly. Their games might be similar, but the expectations of what Roy will be able to accomplish in the league is higher. Battier is who I've been thinking of as well. And, understanding that this is a weak draft, and given what people have been saying about Roy, that seems like a realistic expectation. A solid but not spectacular starter. Whether he can create offense or not is beside the point -- I think I can expect the level of his contribution to be similar to the level Battier would bring us.
Shelden Williams? (EDIT: I just found it...sort of funny, but there's definitely a lot of truth to it) Not sure on the other one. It's not from this draft class is it? The 18 year old comment leads me to think no. Personally I think it's a little too hard to guess if you don't at least provide a year. (EDIT: Yeah, I definitely need a draft year for this one).
Reece gaines went #15, but in one of the strongest drafts in NBA history. What's the highest spot Roy could have been taken in the 2003 draft?
That is Eddie Griffin. He played one year at Seton Hall, had two incidents and was an amazing talent. If his head was straight, he could have been a fantastic player. He was a phenomenal shot-blocker/rebounder who had crafty moves around the paint. If he would've panned out he could have been the perfect compliment to Yao Ming. A great rebounder/shotblocker with range and a nice shooting stroke. Instead he had to go shooting at his girlfriend!!
Are you saying that Roy is a flawless player and a surefire superstar? Surely he must have flaws, even LeBron and Wade have several flaws. He doesn't play explosive, he doesn't have tremendous range, he doesn't have a PG handle like people are saying he is. He's not a perfect player.
Yea but he's a huge upgrade over the garbage we have at that position. Most importantly, he's the most complete player coming out of college. Kind of like how Danny Granger came out of the last draft. That guy has nowhere near the upside of many other players in the last draft but he simply was the most ready for the NBA. Roy will be the same and would be a solid third scorer on this team.
I think Roy would have been picked over these swingmen: 7. Chicago Bulls Kirk Hinrich, G, Kansas 10. Washington Wizards Jarvis Hayes, G/F, Georgia 11. Golden State Warriors Mickael Pietrus, G/F, France 13. Memphis Grizzlies (from Houston) Marcus Banks, G, UNLV (traded to Boston) 14. Seattle Sonics (from Milwaukee) Luke Ridnour, G, Oregon The draft was strong but 6 other guards (TJ ford not listed) went above Gaines (not counting the studs like wade).
Nope, I am not saying he is flawless. I'm just saying that my money is on this predraft comparison/projection of Brandon Roy being far from accurate this time next year.
Brandon Roy = Reece Gaines. Yep. Yep. That's the ticket....and now if Toronto, Chicago, Charlotte, Portland, Atlanta, Minnesota and Boston will just believe that.
Roy has the potential to be a starter for the Rockets for the next five to 10 years. Head will never be anything more than a good role player. A GM will trade a good role player for a starter everytime. Head is nice, but he is not irreplaceable.
