So whats the point in bringing in Roy for this seemingly emergency workout and assuring him you're trying to trade up, presumably to draft him, if we're just going to end up trading down? Clearly the Rockets see this draft as a golden opportunity to snag a top-notch talent like Roy and want to go for the home run, which is nice for a change.
If Blazers are that desperate to offload Miles. I'd want it go JHo+Rybo+#8 for Miles+Blake+#4+#31 PG: Skip, (fa/Mike James), Blake SG: (#4/Roy), Head, (#32/Novak or Gansey), Sura SF: TMac, Miles, (4.2 te/Harpring) PF: Stro, Hayes, (#31/Freeland) C: Yao, Deke
WOW, cool to read all of these articles talking about the Rockets moving up. I know Tyrus Thomas is coming into Houston and the Rockets might be interested in him, but more than anything I think they are doing their due diligence. If the Rockets can get up to #4 I still think they are looking at Brandon Roy there, just like they would be looking at him at #6. Roy fits the Rockets like a glove. They need his length at SG and his shooting. He can play 3 positions. I dont see the Rockets being able to do Howard+8 for Miles+4, even if Miles is a negative to Portland. I think the Rockets would have to give up something else, Luther, or the #32 pick or something. But if we didnt....I certainly would be all over that deal and grab Brandon Roy at #4. It's all about versitility and having guys like Roy, Miles, McGrady on our team allows us to defend multiple positions. Hey, it's the age of the 'swingmen' these days so teams have to match up. Miles has potential on a JVG defensive team. But if he didnt work out you could always trade him to the Knicks. ;-)
Bingo. The Rockets have to know this is their ONE CHANCE to hit a "home run" with a draft pick in the Tmac/Yao era (assuming no injuries and playoffs each year) and they are going for broke here. I like it. They know this is their one chance to get a STUD 3rd star on this team to pair with Yao and Tmac and are doing whatever it takes to get there.
I agree, while I would be happy with Reddick, if you get a chance to unload some garbage (Jho) and pick up a malcontent with talent (Miles) and draft a guy that has some serious upside (Roy or Morrison) you go for it. Even though CD's experiments failed last year, at least he has that gunslinging attitude......and I respect that. DD
http://www.columbian.com/sports/blazerbanter/ Friday June 23, 2006 Could Miles be shipped to Houston? Could the Blazers be on the verge of shipping Darius Miles out of town in a trade? Draftexpress.com has a report out that says Miles will be shipped to Houston along with the No. 4 pick in Wednesday's draft in exchange for the Rockets' No. 8 pick and Juwan Howard. Blazers president Steve Patterson would neither confirm nor deny the report Friday. "It's always been our policy not to talk about trades one way or another," Patterson said. Some people believe those types of denials are partial confirmations because they dodge a confirmation, and executives are more apt to deny a bogus report than confirm a true one. But Patteron's non-denials are often more like non-answers -- he always keeps his cards close to his vest and doesn't like to say too much either way, so it's best not to read too much into his denials. Houston's actions are the better indication that something's getting cooked up with or without the Blazers. The Rockets reportedly brought in Tyrus Thomas Friday and will bring in Brandon Roy Saturday -- moves you can't imagine they'd make unless they thought a move into the top five was plausible. Perhaps it is. Stay tuned.
Speaking of Morrison....... Let's think about WHY the Blazers trade down to #8. (sure they want to get rid of Miles...but the draft pick is key too). From everything I have heard the Blazers really want Morrison. I think there is a SERIOUS chance he is there at #4 (in my mock he is). Would the Blazers trade out of #4 if Morrison was there? Doubt it. The quesiton is, who falls to #4 that the Blazers dont want, but would be content to take someone at #8? I dont know. What's the scenario? I think it's more likely the Rockets make the trade with the Wolves for #6 because "their guy" can be had at #8 in Foye.
Not to mention, if Seattle is serious about selling their #10 pick we should by all means try to be the taker. I have a good feeling your boy Redick will be there sitting pretty at #10. SG Roy/Redick SF McGrady/Miles Add Stevenson or re-up Bogans to that rotation and you gotta like what you see.
Brandon Roy interview from 22 June. Realaudio not happening for me, maybe someone else will have better luck. http://www.softycentral.com/ http://www.softycentral.com/ssnds2006/060622,broy.ram
Another rumour: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16831836&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46370&rfi=6
i've been preparing a rough draft of my hopes for next week, and i came up with something similar [i had us sending Rybo, as well.] however, steve blake and #31 not only might kill the deal, but would also make the salaries less equal. and harpring is a FA. and there's no way Utah does a S&T with us for harpring.
I really don't think the Rockets are targeting any specific player (i.e. Roy or Thomas) just due to the fact that they brought them in. It seems to me that they are serious about moving up and brought in Roy and Thomas because both may happen to fall to #4. I really feel that the Rockets would be content with adding whoever falls to them at #4.
All the Ronnie Brewer fans should be on the bandwagon for this deal. Van Gundy is the coach that can light Miles up and make him into something. I don't care if he never touches the ball, never ran a break, and never took a shot, we improve automatically improve by getting rid of Juwan. Now, add to that Van Gundy turning an already good defensive player (when he wants to play) into a great defensive juggernaut. If we are able to keep Stromile through all this and sign Mike James, can you imagine Phoenix trying to run on James, Roy, McGrady, Miles, and Swift?? LOL. Or, how about classic half court with McGrady, Yao, Swift/Miles, Roy/Miles, and Rafer/James? Miles gives us much greater flexibility than Brewer. Combine him with a player like Roy or Gay and there are so many combinations we can throw on the floor to CREATE mismatches with the opponent. We would never hear about not having length, athleticism, ever again.
Well, if we move up to #4, we would have a lot of options and in a draft like this you need a lot of them in case something surprising happens in front of your pick. Personally I would love to have Morrison or Roy if we get #4, but the reality is that both of them could be gone. At that point, maybe New Orleans comes calling with J.R. Smith/#12/#15 and the Rockets like the sound of it. You just never know with this damn draft lol. It needs to happen like 5 minutes ago.
Assuming the trade with Minnesota is legitimate and Minnesota really does want to move down to #8 and grab Foye and Luther Head for the #6. And assuming that Atlanta is indeed going to take Shelden at #5. Then there is the possibility that we could work a nice little 3 way trade with Portland and Minnesota where Portland still gets their man at #6. We could send Portland Juwan and send Minny #8 and Luther. Minny in turn sends Portland #6. And we simply agree with Portland not to take the player that they would want if they were on the board at #4. This all works as long as Atlanta is locked in on Shelden at #5. Portland still gets the same guy that they would have gotten if they were at #4, so they don't lose anything. And we should still be able to pick up one of either Roy, Gay, or Morrison. Worst case scenario, all 3 of those guys are taken 1-3 (which won't happen), then Portland is choosing between Aldridge, Ty Thomas, and Bargnani. If they don't want Bargnani, he would be our obvious choice. If they wanted Bargnani, then we can pick Aldridge and use him as trade bait to a team like Golden State for their #9 pick and possibly Pietrus or somebody else. Minny gets what they want. And Portland gets what they want, which is essentially to dump Miles for Juwan. And we get what we want. If Portland wanted to deal Miles and 30, 31 for Juwan and #8, surely they would meet us halfway and deal Miles for Juwan straight up. I'd say throw them our 2008 first rounder if we had to. We aren't going to need it. And it is a future asset for Portland. After we use our MLE this year and next and our first round pick next year, we are going to be tapped out. If we haven't made some noise by then, it's time to bust it up. Doesn't this make sense?
Once again I ask, what is the infatuation with Roy? Why are some claiming him to easily be a third "star" on this team. He seems more like a jack of all trades, a guy who doesnt have near the ceiling of some of the other guys we could get at 4.
Trading up, just to subsequnetly trade down does not seem plausible. The way it appears to me, is that the Rockets have have a list of about 4-5 players at the top of this draft that they feel would be welcome additions to their roster. Those 4-5 players would be ranked accordingly as to which would be best for this team. But in having the #4, the problem is that the Rockets would not have their choice of the pick of the litter. They would only have the choice of the best available at #4 according to their board. So if they do swap with Portland, then the Rockets would seemingly be content with knowing that however picks 1-3 play out, they would be happy in adding one of the 4-5 players (best available) left. Now CD an Co. likely have ideas as to how the top three will play out on Wednesday and who might be available at #4; but this is the Draft, and as CD already mentioned the "uncertainty of the top 3 this late in the game" (which is certainly backed up by trade rumors swirling in Toronto and Chicago), you just never now what might happen this year.
