yeah, i'm sure the immigrants who stayed back in south vietnam were just too "lazy" to escape political persecution.
\Well it could be posted in the estate thread since conservatives would rather give the Waltons, Cheney's and Rumsfeld's massive tax breaks rather than take steps to address this problem.
That came out wrong so forgive me. I'm just saying those who leave seem to be more motivated to finding a way to have a "better life". I.e. they aren't the norm. I think it's silly to compare them to the "norm" here. FYI, I don't think folks not excelling here are lazy either. Content (or unwilling to go the extra mile for something better) is probably the proper term.
Therer's a hugh amount of Asians in upper management in the U.S. However, they reside in obsure companies such as Sony, Honda, Toyota, Computer Associates. Whoever heard of those companies? I'm guessing the amount of Asian upper management in U.S. companies are off the charts but the media won't report it due to the PC atmosphere. I will do some research on this but will somebody who has the data please report.
I agree it is somewhat overblown. There isn't the vast white conspiracy to keep minorities down. OTOH, there is still a lot of racism, mostly of the subtle, covert type and this racism isn't directly equally against all races. It is of course partly due to outright racial bigotry. But also it is largely consequence of past discrimination and the "self-perpetuating" phenomemon of poor and uneducated minorities begetting more poor and uneducated minorities which then results in more negative stereotypes that hinder achievement. I think that the real key to reasonable achievement really is: (1) to have an environment minimally conducive to studying (2) to actually take education seriously Unfortunately (1) is difficult to correct. A young person is born to parents and lives where he is lives not due to his own choice. There's nothing he can do about that. For (2) however, I see this also as a big problem. I've always senses that unlike other cultures, most American youth just don't take education too seriously. This is a big problem.
I thought those were Asian companies. I'd be interested in the numbers my self. Like I've said in this thread, I don't think it has anything to do with racism but much more that the Asian culture might not work as well in the corporate world as in the US academic world. Similiarly, I think black and hispanic culture aren't working out as well in the academic world. BTW, why did you are bringing back a thread this old?
i think, more than anything, this is a social issue. when you grow up not expected to achieve anything and told that you "can't" rather than "can," then most likely you will end up doing just that. generally speaking, asian and caucasion children are raised and taught that they have the ability to become successful, which right from the starts fosters an optimum environment for the child to bloom. many african american children are born in a death-trap, some with no fathers, some with no parents at all. growing up, there is no light at the end of the tunnel and they are pounded with the idea that there is no future for them. the best way to solve the issue is not to change the system, but to target the parental unit of the family. this would become a huge undertaking, if even possible. a child must be pushed and told that they "can."
We're actually on the same page on this issue. Some Asian companies have subsidiaries in the U.S. and listed on the big board so technically they are American companies. Since Asians are more technically incline and less on the salesmanship big picture creating a image type, they're more likely to hold upper management positions in companies such as Microsoft's and Intel's. Most people think American companies as fortune 500. But there's a hugh amount of companies in the NASDAQ which are owed or started by Asians which is not reported on by the media but doesn't mean it's not the case. Again I think due to the PC atmosphere, square peg into a round hole. Bottom line is that Whites are unjustly maligned most of the times because of a certain few White supremacists.
