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2006 NBA Finals [Miami Heat vs Dallas Mavericks]

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by WhoMikeJames, Jun 3, 2006.

  1. bnb

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    I find that I just don't care whether there was a back court violation, or whether Wade got some easy calls...

    I'm just so tired of Cuban's CONSTANT whining.

    -- funny....I don't remember Les Alexander running on the court and shouting down the refs last year?
     
  2. Tb-Cain

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    This isn't the first time Pat Riley will take his team to Texas with a 3-2 lead in the NBA Finals. Let's hope history DOESN'T repeat itself.

    Although, I find it extremely difficult pulling for a team that carries Gary Payton, Alonzo Mourning and Antoine Walker. Lesser of two evils, I guess.
     
  3. GRENDEL

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    I feel the same why, what's that old saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend :D

    Go Heat!
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    No doubt - when is the last time any owner but Cuban has run on the floor to argue with the refs and then the league comm at the end of a game?

    Crazy.
     
  5. rrj_gamz

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    Great win...I can't wait for Game 6...Dallas will win and the HEat will win Game 7...It makes for great tv...
     
  6. Major

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    When is the last time any owner was as passionate about his team (not from a business standpoint) as Cuban? The league needs more owners like him. Sure, he's an egomaniac, but he's committed to his team in a way that very few owners are.
     
  7. Major

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    He just just JVG insinuate a conspiracy against Yao, that's all.
     
  8. The Cat

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    Why did I know that francis 4 prez would have a problem with the refs. i'm trying to imagine a francis 4 prez post if he's rooting for miami in this series.
     
  9. dividend

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    I agree completely!


    And with the timeout fiasco, I think a lot of the blame would have to go to Avery on that... he was WAY to animated with the timeout hand gesture on the sideline.. Howard probably thought they had 2 timeouts remaining - 1 to ice Wade, and the other to advance the ball after a make or miss. I'm not sure if he's denying calling the timeout, but it was pretty obvious Howard made the timeout hand gesture and started walking towards the bench... I thought Avery was a bit rude in the press conference. A reporter asked him a question he didn't want to answer, so he threw the question right back at the reporter. He also insinuated that the refs should have known he didn't want the timeout. Well, he pretty much admitted his mistake because I think on the last play of the game, he subbed Howard out and put Daniels in. Something coaches do when there players make some kind of mistake...

    And it seems like Mavs fans are complaining about free-throw discrepancy... maybe if they didn't do Hack-A-Shaq.... maybe if their 7-footer wasn't taking fade-away 15-footers... then maybe they'd have some room for argument... Wade was just relentless last night (I can only hope a healthy T-Mac would want to do the same)

    And the last play where Wade got fouled, another way of seeing things is that the refs called the foul on Dirk instead of Harris. If it was on Harris he would have fouled out.

    And I didn't think it was a backcourt violation when watching on TV, but after seeing some of you mention it and seeing the replay, the refs may have missed that one
     
  10. dandorotik

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    1. Mark Cuban fights for the rule changes regarding hand-checking and the lack of fouls being called. They change the rules, yet when his team is affected by this, he complains.

    2. His players commit suspension-worthy fouls. Yet, it is not their fault. It was not Terry's fault, it was not Mbenga's fault, and it wasn't Stackhouse's fault. And it wasn't OJ's fault, either.

    3. He complains about the disparity in fouls called for Game 5. 26 to 38. Yet, 6 of those fouls (including the non-shooting ones) were the intentional Hack-a-Shaq variety. So, the disparity is really about 26 to 32. A 6-foul difference? And that's unfair? The free throw attempts are not the correct gauge to use because they double for each penalty, so it can seem like one team is at a severe disadvantages.

    And to think, I thought that the Heat, with players like Antoine Walker, Gary Payton, and Alonzo Mourning, would be the complainers. Yet, they've owned up to their losses and taken them like men.

    El Guapo would turn almost every Maverick away, especially Mark Cuban, rather than shoot them, and Jimmy Dugan would bench them immediately.


    The Mavericks will probably win the championship, and you won't hear one word about any of this nonsense. What a shame.
     
  11. Major

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    This all sounds like any other rabid fan of a team. Have you ever seen a post when the Rockets got the benefit of a call saying that we're lucky and didn't deserve to win? Have you ever seen a fan think an opponent's foul deserved a less-severe reaction?
     
  12. dandorotik

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    Yes. And he has the right to say whatever he wants. And I have the right to say he's an extremely biased (yes, there are degrees- other teams, rather than laying the blame game, do admit that they didn't play their best, a la Miami), immature individual. But, again, he's laughable. Let him play the fool. He's a flyspeck on the basketball map.
     
  13. max14

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    Check out ESPN, it was clearly a foul on Harris
     
  14. Smokey

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    Alonzo?

    You monster :D
     
  15. Major

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    I would venture to guess he would agree with you that he's extremely biased - he's a rabid fan, and that's what rabid fans do. You say he's a flyspeck on the basketball map - I'd guess he agrees with that as well. Y'all are the ones sitting here and spending pages and pages complaining about him. It doesn't appear he's a flyspeck to you.

    I'm sure he's perfectly content with being a "fool" for a team that's he's built into a title contender with a seemingly bright future.
     
  16. dandorotik

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    So, what's your point? Why should I care with whether he's content being an idiot? I'm sure Tonya Harding thinks she's an intelligent person, and I'm sure Terrell Owens feels that he's the one who's always been in the right.

    Let's put it this way- you like him and I don't. Simple as that. I have my reasons, as do you. Now, if you would just acknowledge the fact that my opinions are better, everything would be fine. :D

    Just kidding- props to him for resurrecting that franchise. Bottom line is- if it ain't the Rockets winning it all, does any of this matter? For me, no.
     
  17. Rocketman95

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    He's such a flyspeck, yet there are three threads on a Houston Rockets message board discussing him? Yeah, right.
     
  18. dandorotik

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    No, not in the attention he gets. I mean in the overall scheme of things. I don't know about you, but when I reminisce about basketball in the 2000s, I would be thinking of Yao, McGrady, Wade, LeBron, the Pistons, Kobe, Duncan, etc.

    Cuban will be more of a trivia answer than anything else.

    Then again, maybe he will be what we remember about this decade of basketball. Great. Cool.

    But you're right- if you actually have to make a point that someone is meaningless, they're probably not. If they were, people wouldn't need to say anything about that person.

    I'm just a bitter Rockets fan who can't stand to see anyone happy unless they own, coach, or play for the Rockets. I admit it. But why does it bother me more that Dallas might win it over Miami? It's gotta be something.
     
  19. Clutch

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    When can we expect Pat Riley to step to the podium with this gem for Avery?

    A lot of things surprise me. You know one of the things that surprises me? Here a team is in an 0-2 hole, everybody has this team written off when they’re down 0-2. They come back and win three in a row and you don’t even hear anything about how the Heat won three games in a row. The talk is about other stuff. Maybe I need to go crazy. Maybe that will help.

    This series is about basketball, that is what this series is about. We do not make excuses. The game was called pretty fairly and that is the way it is. So we’re getting on the plane, we’re going to Dallas and we’re going to get ready for Game 6. No excuses, no complaining, no nothing.

    This is a great series. If you win take your medicine, if you lose take whatever it is. All of the team that I have been on, you win you win, you lose you lose. But it is all about basketball. This thing is about the NBA. It is not about one person or one player, this game is global. They’ve got people all over the world watching this game. That is what this game is about. It is about the NBA, it is about a series with the East and the West, two teams playing great basketball. One team is down 0-2, the other team comes back and wins three in a row, now we're up 3-2. That is what it is about.
     
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