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Brevin Knight on the block: Worth a look?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ClutchCityReturns, Jun 9, 2006.

  1. Pass 1st shoot 2nd

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    I would do this in a heartbeat. The difference between Brevin and Rafer is that Brevin doesn't really look for his shot. Plus, Brevin can play defense.
     
  2. lost_elephant

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    Brevin has been in the league for nearly ten years. Numbers of three's made? 15.
     
  3. Sooner423

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    He's pretty much automatic from mid-range though. He can also take it to the hole a little. I wouldn't mind picking up Knight.
     
  4. sammy

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    He can steal the ball like crazy....has nothing to do with him playing on the bobcats.
     
  5. Rockets Dynasty

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    Yeah but if you check the draft measurements Ely is half an inch taller at full growth than Swift was at 19.

    Also There's no way Swift is actually only 230 pounds, T-Mac weighs around 225.

    Remember Swift's 230 listing is from age 19.

    It would be hard to fathom a man his size is still the same weight at age 26 as he was at age 19.
     
  6. Aruba77

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    I don't think that alston is making a lot of money, and furthermore a Knight/
    Alston pg combo would be nasty. I wouldn't trade head, but I would give up swift and a 2nd rounder for Knight. Perhaps the bobcats would go for that.
     
  7. ClutchCityReturns

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    I suggested that others try and come up with their own ideas, but I haven't seen too many. I know a lot of people don't want to to give up Luther, so let's hear some ideas that don't include him. Going off of what Aruba77 just said, how does this look to everybody?

    Swift
    #32

    for

    Knight
    Ely

    Some people also suggested trading Rafer instead, so how is this?

    Rafer
    #32

    for

    Knight

    I don't like that one at all myself. One of the biggest upsides of picking up Knight was to increase depth at the PG position. If we deal Rafer then we get rid of our only true PG to replace him with another true PG and we throw away the #32. Seems pointless (no pun intended) to me.
     
  8. Rockets Dynasty

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    In all seriousness Juwan for Knight and A Anderson (cap filler to make the trade work) that's all I would do.

    If I was the Rockets I would hang up the monent Head's name or Swift's name came up in a trade for Knight.
     
  9. ClutchCityReturns

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    That's rather surprising.

    Also, no way on God's green earth that the Bobcats take Juwan Howard's contract. They would literally laugh C.D. or Morey off the phone.
     
  10. Rockets Dynasty

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    Let's try and be realistic here.

    1. of course they would not take Juwan, regardless you asked what trade would others be WILLING to do.

    That's all I would be WILLING to do if I was the Rockets.


    2. You do NOT trade Swift for Knight. I am sorry but if members here believe that is Swift's value they are being beyond haters. I am NOT a big Swift fan and I actually had an argument with several of my freinds when he was signed as they were all giddy (mind you like most this forum over it) when I pointed out to them that Swift was a PROJECT player.

    Swift certainly has his flaws, however there is absolutely ZERO chance that his value is so low that he would be dealt for Knight straight up or Head and Ely in there as well.

    I know most fans here are down on Swift and with good reason certainly because he didn't earn that contract so far BUT you are taking an ENORMOUS and I mean ENORMOUS amount of haterade if you believe that is Swift's trade value.
     
  11. ClutchCityReturns

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    Well, actually I asked for trade proposals that would get us Knight. That wouldn't get us Knight because it would never even be considered.

    If we were coming up with stuff just based off what we'd be willing to give up, we could have closed this thread up already with a proposal of Knight for Ryan Bowen and Bob Sura's decrepit rotting corpse.

    :)
     
  12. Rockets Dynasty

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    Well I misunderstood then.

    Ok well here's my problem, anything that would get us Knight, wouldn't be something I would do.

    You would be giving up likely Luther, head, Rafer Alston, or Swift and I just don't see how that makes any sense. Also Swift's trade value is several rungs above Knight's. No matter how much some fans may want him out, you can get MUCH more for him than that.
     
  13. ClutchCityReturns

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    I'm just trying to think of ways to get the Rockets the legitimate three point guard rotation that Van Gundy wants. Right now they really only have one, assuming Sura isn't expected to be a part of it.

    Alston, ________ , ________ .

    I personally don't count Head as a PG. He's a tweener with a not so hot assist to turnover ratio, and I assume that JVG wasn't referring to him when he said he wanted 3 PG's.
     
  14. TriCkz

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    I would do


    Rafer and 2nd round pick.

    or

    Wesley and 2nd round pick.

    for Knight.

    Nothing more.
     
  15. Rockets Dynasty

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    Unfortunately Knight is at $4.4 million this year, and the Moochie TE is only $4.2 million.

    Otherwise we could use the TE to get him.

    I don't know about this 3 point guard thing. JVG talks like Spanoulis sucks, Lindsey and Dawson did everything but say he WILL be signed but still sure made it sound like he would.

    JVG said he's not a PG, then Dawson said he would backup Rafer. But the interesting things is both Lindsey and especially Dawson commented on watching all of his games, while JVG said he had hardly watched him play at all.

    So if "Moneyball" really is in effect probably V-Span is in the fold. He can say whatever he wants about winning the Euro title and MVP, but if he gets half the MLE he will be in Rockets uni next year.

    Which haf the MLE for 5 years is about $13.5 million, or half the MLE for 3 years is about $8.1 million. So depending on how good they REALLY think he is.

    Let's say he gets 3 years at half the MLE which is $8.1 million.

    You can then start him at $2.5 million for his first year, then $2.7 million for his 2nd year, then $2.9 million for his third year.

    The MLE is said to be about $5.45 million this year, so you give Spanoulis $2.5 million and you still have about $2.95 million left of the MLE.

    I'm not advocating this one way or another, I'm just saying that even if they don;t get any other players at all, they can definitely get Spanoulis rather cheaply and easily. So the 3 Pg thing is probably the least of their worries because they have Spanoulis.
     
  16. Rockets Dynasty

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    You would give up Rafer and a 2nd round pick, for Knight considering rafer as bad as he is shooting is much better than Knight?
     
  17. TriCkz

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    I would be leaning more towards trading Wesley and 2nd round for Knight and their 2nd round.
     
  18. maopaopao

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    I think jh for knight is ok. not swift and head
     
  19. ClutchCityReturns

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    I would like to thank you for reading the thread. Especially the very last statement of the very first post.

    :p
     
  20. chris_Rocket

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    I agree with you.
     

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