And, Kurt saying, Nirvana was just trying to resemble the Pixies.. was pretty much as close as those two bands ever came to being the same band.. totally different sounds, totally different personalities.
hah, speaking of heavy metal music shadows fall has a new album coming out in 2007.... they're signed with a big music label, but they still have more control over their sound because http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=53145 it's because of the heavy metal sound that i don't listen to FM radio.
As you age. . .you have seen MORE MUSIC so you can see more links of modern music to older music you remember To young kids. . this is NEW AND EXCITING basically you are just getting old To you . . .yours was the original . . to your parents. . . .theirs was to your grandparents. .. theirs was Eaeh thinks those that came after it was a Rip off and a bastardizing of the original. Rocket River
I get off work at 10:00pm, its a 10 minute drive home, the only thing on the radio is Metallica every rock station for like 30 mins. God how i hate them.
Yeah, I saw them in Dallas the night before. Opening with Somewhat Damaged and playing Get Down Make Love was awesome. This was my third time to see them this year so it was good that they changed up their set a little bit. With as crappy as mainstream rock is you always have NIN and Tool. They are not full-on mainstream but bad ass none the less.
I have yet to hear any self-respecting 18-20yr old consider 'this'(mainstream rock) "NEW AND EXCITING".. unless of course, by young kid you meant 12-16.. even then I'd narrow it down to 12-14.. It's really not a noteable majority.. Afterall, Hip Hop reigns supreme these days.
I seem to recall an interview where they said Joy Division were an influence on that song. The bass is very reminiscent of Hooky's playing.
Cobain even admitted it's similarity before it was released as Nevermind's second single. He was leary about releasing it. Killing Joke was in the process of suing Nirvana when Kurt killed himself. (I'm not saying that has anything to do with his death) EDIT: Rolling Stone says they didn't pursue the lawsuit. My original point wasn't to bash Nirvana, I like them. For In Utero they used Engineer Steve Albini who recorded Surfer Rosa / Come On Pilgrim. He did some more posthumous Nirvana albums including the box set released a few years ago ( Singles, In Utero UK and With the Lights Out) and also Post-Pixies (Death to The Pixies and Wave Of Mutalation). There is a pretty strong tie in production (or lack thereof) of the the bands sound. Link Pixies were ahead of their time and had to go overseas to find an audience. Nirvana hit their stride at the right moment when record companies were were in Seattle looking for the next big thing. Have you seen the documentary "Hype"? It's a great flick. That "icon" status was bestowed by the same people that were selling REM and B-52s just a few years earlier.
PiL, Echo & the Bunnymen, Jesus & Mary Chain, Cocteau Twins, Cure... I'd hardly call the Pixies ahead of their time.
But, guy... It's a minute similarity.. They would've lost the case.. The comment in paranthesis goes without saying.. That "icon" status was bestowed by the Grunge boom that impacted pop culture in ways not seen since the 60's.. All in great part to that ONE powerful album, Nirvana's "Nevermind".. Hardly anything to do with the people 'selling' REM and B-52s. Fact is, before Nirvana, Grunge was a nice looking firecracker that appeared to be going the way of the dodo, a dud, it's days numbered. After, Nirvana, we're talking high grade explosives, and "Nevermind" by Nirvana/Kurt lit that fuse, that no other band that came before it could in a genre that had almost an entire decade's worth of getting over the hump. It had nothing to do with any attempts to sound like a former band, or any 'strong ties' in production or an incredibly miniscule similarity with a previous song.. I think the biggest beef, biggest gripe 'Rock aficionados' had with Nirvana and Kurt Cobain was how much he accomplished with so little (talent comparisons with other bands and musicians at the time). If your biggest concerns in Rock are refined technique, polished production and vocal proffeciency... You just don't understand what 'Rock' is. (Not directed at the quoted author, just a rant).
I can certainly think of times when 'mainstream rock' was worse. Howsabout, The Outfield, Loverboy, Toto and Styx era 'Mr Roboto'? for BAAAAAAADDDDD? Can't say that I miss Hootie and the Blowfish much either
I hated that stuff then but like it now. (except for Hootie, that just gets worse) I really like Africa by Toto.
This is why I only listen to KTRU and the rap stations (when my MP3 player's battery is dead). Say what you will about mainstream rap, but it's in much better shape than mainstream rock - even dumb crap on the radio is at least catchy and has a danceable beat.
I don't think its just aging. There was a lot of crap when I was in highschool, stuff like Ratt, Poison, Mili Vinili and other such horrors. I don't think things are that original now but popular music in the late 80's was much worse with the airwaves dominated by hair bands overproduced dance acts and very unedgy rap acts like the Fat Boys and Will Smith.
C'mon, Styx is the only band to have its own forum here at Clutchfans...that alone makes them a great band... Domo Arigato, b****es!!
I don't think Nirvana broke the whole scene right open. It was an evolution of everything and everyone. Everything required change and polish. Nirvana first recorded Bleach in 89. No one cared. It was a horrible recording and they needed work. They didn't open anything up. Stone Gossard went from Mother Love Bone (RIP Andy) to Green River to Temple of the Dog and finally Pearl Jam. That's just an example of the maturation the genre was experiencing in its early growth. By the early 90's came around, it was just time. There wasn't any one band that started it.Late 1991 was just time for things to kick off. Gish was released in July. Ten was released in August. Nevermind in September. Badmotorfinger in October. It was an aural assualt on a world that was still listening to crap like Ratt and Kiss without the makeup.
Righto. I can't imagine wanting to turn the radio on in 1982 or 1992 or 2002 (or any other year) more than I want to now. It's always been *blech* to me.
Yes, it has been worse. In the 90's to be exact. Songs like "We can swim out past the breakers, watch the world die" Everclear and "And then the morning comes". Smashmouth and "When I come around" Green Day are utter trash.
