Iran deploys its war machine By Iason Athanasiadis http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HE24Ak05.html
Iran commands significant popularity among indigenous Shi'ite Arab populations in Bahrain, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. To a lesser extend, Sunni Arabs in the Gulf region and the wider Middle East applaud Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad for his strident anti-Western rhetoric, which emphasizes his country's independence and echoes the anti-imperialist liberation ideology of 1960s pan-Arabism.
Iranian politician urges U.S.-Iran ties: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060527...fZS8FEUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE-
Neither the article nor Creepy's replies are anything new. Iran is determined to get the bomb and partly because we are stuck in the muck of Iraq we can't do much about it. It's just a matter of time and military action won't stop them. Talk about a (more dangerous) New World Order. IMO, we can't stop Iran and may as well talk to them directly. The best we can probably do is make it clear to them and the world if they use a nuclear weapon against another country, whether Israel or an Arab neighbor, that the nation of Iran will cease to exist as we know it. If anyone out there thinks we can stop them from getting nukes by negotiation or by military strikes I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. It's time for direct dialogue. There are things the U.S. must say directly to Iran and there are things Iran must say directly to the U.S. The talks may end up being very short but there isn't much to lose at this point. Before somebody brings it up: Direct talks don't completely nullify the multi-lateral front as some insist. That is the only real argument against direct talks and it's false.
The concern is not so much if Iran would eventually develop the bomb and use it. The real issue is it's more likely nuclear materials would fall into the hands of terrorist and be used in some other means.
I know nothing about Iran except what conservative think tanks have said. I know Iran will stop at nothing to get the bomb to commit genocide against the Jews and to launch their bombs at America. Oh, wait, I know a lot about Iran. I know they do not have any intentions of developing the bomb.
these iranians are really pissing me off. they have the audacity to declare that they will retaliate if they are attacked by the u.s. or israel! the u.s. has been going around threatening iran w/ nuclear strikes and those "animals" have the nerve to try to defend themselves! outrageous
Same thing as I said before. Iran must know if they give nuclear materials to others who use them they would be held responsible. For other reasons also, my personal opinion is when they go nuclear, they will NOT share them with others. On the other hand, when you say "fall into the hands of terrorists" if you mean accidently, I doubt it. Iran isn't Russia, which has more nuclear junk than it can keep track of. Iran also isn't North Korea, even if Bush tries to label them so. North Korea is run by a paranoid, schizo pervert who will make a decision based on a bad dream. Iran, while controlled by extremely dangerous people, is not quite the psycho-regime it's often made out to be. There is a method to their "madness", even if it seems otherwise. My 2 cents: Over the next decade or two, the threat of biological terrorism will far surpass the threat of nuclear terrorism. I think the shift has already started while Iran & North Korea's nukes occupy global media attention.
does anyone actually think they'll nuke israel? say they do nuke jerusalem, they'll begin a war, and pretty much destroy israel before we can retaliate, but they're also gonna destroy muslim holy shrines.... i'm not seeing it, an attack that is.
Well, if they try to nuke Israel, they would pretty much destory themselves in the process as Isreal would pretty much wipe out Iran in retaliation. Heck, if Israel is going down, they might decide to take the entire mid-east with them. Some of these folks are crazy, but you have to believe the folks in power want to stay in power and not obliterate themselves.
I think what pisses most people off is their government's stated views that they want to wipe Israel off the map. Not that they want to defend themselves.
yeah, how dare they try and defend themselves! if they do pursue nukes, the would want them as a strategic deterrent in order to provide security for the state. iran is not an aggressor nor does it have a history of aggression. This is an unfounded concern...Iran has had chemical and biological weapons for a while now and they're extremely secure...If you wanna worry about that issue, you should focus on Pakistan or some other weak states like those in the former Soviet Union...Iran is a strong state. I'm tired of people saying this, don't let the media brainwash you. Nobody said this, it was a mistranslation and Prof. Juan Cole of the Univ of Michigan has debunked this already and he speaks Persian. The President of Iran said that the occupation regime must end. Here's the speech in Persian: http://www.president.ir/farsi/ahmadinejad/speeches/1384/aban-84/840804sahyonizm.htm Here's an article with links galore that discusses the mistranslation as well: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-scher/the-importance-of-cole-v_b_20350.html So if this is the only problem people have, it's been solved. The same way people have philosophical objections to ideologies like fascism and nazism, Iranians, similar to many including Rabbis, have a philosophical objection to an ideology like zionism, which the UN equated with racism for a very long period of time. Thus, advocating an end to occupation at a conference entitled 'The World Without Zionism' is not a big deal.
Iran is willing by god to destroy Israel if it means the meager sacrifice of their country and their people. They feel Fanatical muslim ideology will live elsewhere. Once Israel is destroyed, the Jews will be diminshed to near-oblivion. Hitler would be proud that someone can finish his goal of wiping the Jews off the earth...That is the mindset on what I have read.
http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html FROM THE KORAN ITSELF... "HEIL HITLER" Now Upgraded to "ALLAH AKBAR?" You may already know about this one: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. [al-Ma'idah 5:51.11] But did you know that there are 123 verses in the Quran concerning fighting and killing for the cause of Allah? Here are but a few passages: -Muslims are encouraged to be wholly occupied (Sura 2:273) with fighting for Allah's cause. - Allah will give "a far richer recompense to those who fight for him" (Sura 4:96). - Regarding infidels (unbelievers), they are the Muslim's "inveterate enemies" (Sura 4:101). Muslims are to "arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere" (Sura 9:5) for them. They are to "seize them and put them to death wherever you find them, kill them wherever you find them, seek out the enemies of Islam relentlessly" (Sura 4:90). "Fight them until Islam reigns supreme" (Sura 2:193). "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers" (Sura 8:12). - If a Muslim does not go to war, Allah will kill him (Sura 9:39). He is to be told, "the heat of war is fierce, but more fierce is the heat of Hell-fire" (Sura 9:81). - A Muslim must "fight for the cause of Allah with the devotion due to him" (Sura 22:78) - Muslims must make war on the infidels (unbelievers) who live around them (Sura 9:123). - Muslims are to be "ruthless to unbelievers" (Sura 48:29). - A Muslim should "enjoy the good things" he has gained by fighting (Sura 8:69). - A Muslim can kill any person he wishes if it be a "just cause" (Sura 6:152). - Allah loves those who "fight for his cause" (Sura 61:3). Anyone who fights against Allah or renounces Islam in favor of another religion shall be "put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off alternative sides" (Sura 5:34). - Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57) - Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5) - Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. (Koran 69:30-37) - I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12) - They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides. (Koran 5:33) - Know that paradise is under the shades of swords. Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 4 p55 And Speaking of Paradise... "There will be "gushing fountains" and everyone "shall recline on jeweled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine." Suras (or chapters) 55 and 56 of the Quran. "Therein are bashful virgins whom neither man nor jinnee will have touched before ... virgins as fair as corals and rubies," sura 55. A few lines later, you might remind them of "virgins chaste and fair ... they shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets." "The smallest reward for the people of Paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a.'" It will be the day, God willing, you spend with the women of paradise...Know that the gardens of paradise are waiting for you in all their beauty, and the women of paradise are waiting, calling out, "Come hither, friend of God."
thanks for the article, but i was hoping for something that specifically relates to iran to prove the things you said about that country.
