I'd rather try to steal a player like Antoine Wright -- even if he is a former Aggie -- from New Jersey. Wright is stuck behind Vince Carter and may be available, and they need cap room to get K-Mart back. J.R. Smith of the Hornets could be another target. There are lots of potential steals out there rather than the same expensive retreads.
how about: stro, S&T wesley, #8 for PJ brown, JR smith, #12 stro and wesley will equal browns contract for part 1 of the deal. they give us smith for the TE in a separate deal. they get into the running for carney who would be awesome for a running team. we move back a bit in order to find a player like tiago splitter (4 who can shoot and block shots).
the problem is, S&T can only happen (normally mid july, IIRC?) quite a while after the draft. unless both sides have enomous confidence about each other, any wink wink trades like this is probably unrealistic
This deal would work capwise: Antoine Wright Padgett Zoran Planinic (Generated $5.4 million TE) for Stromile We'd get the young swingman, and the perimeter shooting 4 that we're looking for without even touching our draft picks. Then with the draft we don't have to draft on need as much, and can go for the best player avaliable. AND a very nice side effect is that Padge and Wright fits under our 4.2 TE, and Zoran (who's basically filler in this deal) fits under out 1.67 TE. So we actually generate a new TE based on Stro's salary for next year 5.4 million if we do this deal after the draft and during free agency. As much as I like Stro and think he deserves a chance, he's still too inconsistent to be counted on. If we can add some depth and another bargaining chip in a larger TE, then I think we should go for it. Edit: I'm not sure but we might be able to pull this trade before the draft, which would help both teams a lot because they would know what they would have to draft for. It depends on Padgett's team option. It says that he has a team option on patricia bender's site, but on hoopshype it doesn't show it. If Padgett doesn't have a team option or if the team has already exercised it, then we could do this deal RIGHT AWAY which would be a trememdous boost heading into the draft.
Very nice thought, m_cable. The problem I see with it is New Jersey's depth- they are paper thin. I realize none of the three players played really significant minutes for them (all around 10 mpg), but I don't think they can afford to pull a 3 for 1. On a note to everyone: The draft takes place before free agency. Deals for would-be free agents can not be discussed. Because of this, no deals involving current picks AND sign and trades as part of the same package are feasible.
This is the first really good post on this subject that I've seen to date. This is what SMART organizations try to do. Unfortunately, (for us), you cannot include the Rockets on that list as long as they have the current management team in place.
nice work. the problem is we can only bring in one player at a time with a TE. so this would have to be 3 separate deals. the nets in turn (who can't combine thier TE's generated by our 3 deals) won't be able to take on stro's contract. if we traded 1 for 3 instead of using any of the TE's i wouldn't like this deal. while i do like scotty the body and wright potential, NJ had the LEAST bench production in the league. Adding 3 of them to our bench doesn't look to promissing.
The three players proposed really aren't anything special. I guess you'd be hoping on Antoine Wright developing, which may very well be true, but who knows. The guy had a great year at A&M before coming out, has good size for a SG, etc. But I guess when VC and RJ both are playing 40 mpg, there isn't a lot of PT to go around.
No, logistically it works fine. From the Nets point of view, it is a simple 3 for 1 trade - they don't receive any exceptions out of it. From our viewpoint, it is as m_cable laid it out. There was a similar dynamic in the TMac trade, which resulted in Francis being traded for "nothing" creating a 5.48m trade exception (half of his 10.96m salary). HillBoy - First, with the addition of Morey into basically a 2nd in command/heir apparent position, this isn't exactly the same management; I expect to see some philosophical changes when CD moves out of the way (next summer), and probably before then. Second, it takes two to tango - smart teams aren't going to give away young talent.
Not true. You can bring in as many players as you want under a TE as long as the salaries are less than or equal to the total exception. Padge and Wright fit under the 4.2 and Zoran fits under the 1.67. And you most definitely don't have to do completely separate deals when TE's are involved, it's just that the TEs themselves have to cover the specified players. Otherwise, how did we do the deal for Mike James where took him on with the TE at the same time that Reece Gaines was traded for Zendon Hamilton. I'm very sure that this deal works out capwise. Well your mileage may vary, but if Wright can turn out to be a decent SG (at least a borderline starter in this league), and Padgett gives us what he gave us last year, and we turn around and cash in that TE for Mike James or another MLE target, while keeping our MLE for other purposes, I would say it's a slam dunk.
I like this as a kind of a last resort option. The problem is we don't necessarily get a concrete rotation player for Swift, something we might be able to get if we package him with Head or the TE... or even straight up for someone like Peterson / Devean George + someone.
Like JR Smith not too sure about Antoine Wright looks lost alot when he plays. How about Carlos Delfino form Detroit not just a good shooter but a good player who I think could be had from Detroit for the right price especially now that they have Maurice Evans. Reason for this is because Detroit wants defensive athletricism something that Delfino does not have. He is aggressive offensively and will help Houston with scoring and as of now could be our staring two, depending on the draft.
if we dont get mike james then i think we should try to get duhon, stoudemire, or jackson with our te, but then if we do get mike james, i say we trade our te and juwan howard to the portland blazers for travis outlaw and another decent player from them liek webster or telfair.. sounds doable?
Can you come up with a similiar trade with somebody else that would yield us that higher TE? This is very interesting.
Definitely. I'm sure a team in rebuilding mode would LOVE to hand us over one of those three young talents (Outlaw, Telfair or Webster) in exchange for a washed up Juwan Howard (who has an undesirable contract to boot). Especially considering Telfair has been their starting point guard and Juwan would be a back up to Zach Randolph. GOOD IDEA! And that, my friends, is my 2000th post. Yeah. I used it to make fun of a ridiculous trade proposal by a rook.
haha ouch.. well maybe we can just get outlaw and we'll give em ryan bowen too.. i mean portland needs some veteran leadership.
