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Origins of African American names

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by robbie380, Apr 27, 2006.

  1. Cesar^Geronimo

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    anyone who discriminates because of someones name --- would have discriminated for some other reason anyway.

    It's a shame that's how it is.
     
  2. thadeus

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    My name is Thadeus, and I'm a honky cracker.
     
  3. Xenochimera

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    QFT i mean on the application it asks you what race and you dont have to answer that but seriously 90% of the time you can tell what someone's race is by name/voice.
     
  4. krosfyah

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    Much of the time - I don't think it is discrimination that results in the resumes getting passed over. I think it is something less sinister. The younger cousin of Mr. Racism, perhaps. :) Afterall, HR people are pretty much trained NOT to be discriminatory by job definition.

    If you are Mrs. Whity HR person with a stack of 175 resumes, you probably have about 3 seconds to do an initial resume once-over where you trash it or mark it as "possible - review later". I think black sounding names subconciously get tossed quicker by HR people for whatever reason. I don't think it is a conspiracy most of the time ...just human nature ...albeit a crappy part of human nature.
     
  5. Two Sandwiches

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    I can't tell if you misread me, or if you're just playing the devil's advocate.

    What I meant to say is that we hear many blacks and other minority leaders out talking about how there is not equality among races and enough harmony and blending amongst different culutre, and I generally agree with them.

    But what I was trying to say is that by naming these kids with these names that basically are taken as jokes, it seems these people are purposely trying to distance themselves from the majority of the population, when their people are trying to do the exact opposite.

    Like some other people have sort of hinted at, these type of names usually do come from the less-educated people, so nobody's definitely not trying to group a whole race in here.

    Saying that the entire African population does this is like saying anyone who is white is a hardcore hillbilly redneck from the hills named Jethro.



    Sadly, some people have taken a stereotype like this and turned it around the other way (For instance, those racists who believe all blacks are uneducated gangsters, or that you'll never meet a black person that doesn't have an apostrohpe in their name, or that Asian people are always smart and good with electronics, or that Hispanics are always hard workers, or that whites are always ignorant)*






    *I tried to encompass all types of people so that nobody got offended, even though this is the D&D.
     
  6. Two Sandwiches

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    There we go, I fixed it.


    I should re-read my posts first.
     
  7. Doctor Robert

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    That's a word you don't hear much in the United States, but I think that is what is going on. It may get lumped together with racism because of US History, but that is what it is about I believe.

    FYI, here is more info from the same source I was quoting before:
    This sort of contradicts the other stats in a way. Here is the entire article on Freakonomics from Slate.

    Another thing... along with black naming traditions changing during the 60's and 70's, wasn't there a simultaneous movement to use purely African names and even an effort for adults to change their names to reflect their African tribal ancesters if they could be traced?

    This is pretty interesting. I was wrong before about implying that names come from pop culture.
    Here is where this quote came from.
     
  8. r35352

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    Names are just a bunch of sounds strung together. To say that in any objective sense, DeShawn or Keisha "sounds" bad but Steven and Lisa "sound" good is just plain stupid. Its just a bunch of sounds. Of course Steven and Lisa have been around for a while and are "traditional" but I see nothing wrong with coming up with new creative unique names, rather I like that rather than people using the same common names over and over again.

    Now the ugly truth isn't that "black" names are "bad" in and of themselves. The truth is that they are bad because these are names black people use and black people are looked down in society. Since blacks are looked down by the whites, names that are only used by blacks are also viewed as bad in connection. Black names have a lower status only because blacks have a lower status. If these same names were used by people that weren't looked down upon, people wouldn't be making fun of these names or looking down on them.
     
  9. krosfyah

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    I dunno. I'm not too partial to Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet or Diva. ;)
     
  10. Doctor Robert

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    One of the funniest standup acts I ever saw mentioned Frank Zappas children.... She said he named his daughter Moon Unit, which was totally ridiculous because everyone knows Moon Unit is a boy's name.
     
  11. robbie380

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    i just got back to cf.net and wow all that info is pretty interesting. the doctor nailed it.
     

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