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Dontrelle Willis - What would it take for him to be an Astro?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Dream34, Apr 24, 2006.

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  1. msn

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    Except, evidently, fans of other MLB franchises.
     
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  2. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    Kind of like when the Astros could have traded for Clemens about 5 years before they actually signed him if they would have just been willing to part with Scott Elerton.

    If you have to part with an unproven prospect for Willis, you do it, then you give him as much money as it takes to lock him up long term.

    He's awesome and proven and he's 24 or 25 years old. He'll be an ace for the next 8+ years.

    It isn't like you would be trading away a bunch of players for an old veteran that might pitch half a year. You would be trading for a proven, young, studly ace pitcher that could team up with Oswalt for the best one-two punch in baseball for the next few years.
     
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  3. Angle02

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    I thought Hildago was apart of that deal to get Clemens. :confused:
     
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  4. wrath_of_khan

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    Yes, it was both Hidalgo and Elarton, IIRC.

    The point is that refusing to give up an unproven youngster for someone who's proven they can compete at the highesst level isn't always the right move.
     
    #44 wrath_of_khan, Apr 25, 2006
  5. Vengeance

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    Exactly. I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers the (rumored?) Rockets' refusal to give up Rodrick Rhodes in the failed Damon Stoudamire deal.
     
    #45 Vengeance, Apr 25, 2006
  6. Buck Turgidson

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    Roger & the Hendricks brothers also made it known that they wanted his contract renegotiated (with a substantial increase) by whatever team acquired him. That's when Gerry went ballistic to the media & the trade talks were dead.

    That's the main reason Gerry was not involved in the negotiations b/t the Clemens camp & the Astros...lots of bad blood still there.
     
    #46 Buck Turgidson, Apr 25, 2006
  7. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    Well, I've been looking at Troy Patton's info. He does look like the real deal.

    He's only given up 1 ER this year and he's 0-2? That's got to suck. I like the .68 ERA and 16 Ks in 13 innings.

    Still, Willis is proven and he was born in 1982.
     
    #47 Supermac34, Apr 25, 2006
  8. wrath_of_khan

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    Yeah, I remember that very clearly. I just wanted to make sure the previous poster knew that it was Hidalgo and Elarton.

    Roger's renegotiation demands during that while fiasco are when I really started to hate the guy ...

    ... until he was on our team, of course! :)
     
    #48 wrath_of_khan, Apr 26, 2006
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