Im on the low block...how do I get a good entry pass?

Maybe it's the 4:45 talking, but, it took me reading the thread title a few times, as well as reading the first paragraph at least twice to figure out what this thread is about. Maybe I should sleep

 

Meet the pass, or fake the post-up and roll off him for a lob. If you're taller than these guys, why aren't you pinning them OUTSIDE and looking for the lob over the top in the first place?

 

You think these guys can lob effectively if they can't give him a good entry pass?

 

A way you might try is that if their aggressive they'll play the ball. Have 3 guys line up outside the 3-pt arc. One at the top of the key and the other two at opposite ends, think triangle. You and the 5th man are inside on opposite sides. Now people focus on the ball so you want to be on the weak side getting position. Have the your swing man on the stong side bring attention to him by penetrating in. Your 5th man then goes outside the arc to where the swingman who penetrated was. The penetrater passes the ball to the 5th man. Pass the ball quickly around the arc to the outside guy on your side. You should now have a window to get the ball easily. Take it to the hole. If the defense collaspes on you though, then a guy on the arc will be open. Have your best shooter at the spot where you can kick it out the easiest. Hopefully he can drain the open shot.

 

Jump to the ball. When the passer releases the ball jump to it so the defnder cant hack through you to get the ball. Then you can turn and face or back the player down. Often what happens is posts dont want to give up "good position" so their feet are in cement when reciving a pass. If you meet the ball it can give you more separation from the basket hence more space to work with.

 

Push the defender off with your inside arm ~ just don't use hand to do it and no one will hassle you (usually).

 

I don't know how big your posterior is, but use it to create some space right before the pass gets to you. It worked for Barkley.

 

i'm a fan of this move

edit: and the size of your posterior doesn't matter. it's all about wanting to use it

 

what? watching the rockets the last 5 years isn't sufficient enough to learn how to get an entry pass?

 

Entry passes to the post rely a lot on communcation between the passer and the post player. I have a few guys who I like to play with because they know my tendencies and my hand signals.

They are able to bounce pass with spin so they can pass it out further but the spin will bring the ball into my zone.

Holding the hand out giving the passer a target helps as well too, but if you have one of those guys who are all over your back and keep reaching in then you need a passer who can bullet the ball to you quickly.

Also if it's really bad then you may want to get the ball out further faced up and then proceed to back into the post from there.

If you know your passer you can always give fake hand signals where you hold your hand outside but that really means to lob inside and you'll have to go get it.

It's also important for you to be able to be athletic enough to get to the ball. Coming out to the ball and jumping up to grab the lob is important skills to have.

Knowing your defender is just as important too. If he can outleap you then lobbing is out of the question. I use my off arm quite a bit. It's usually a forearm to their chest. They don't like it..but I don't care. They also don't like the forearm to their lower back when i'm sealing off on the other side. There are a few guys who are just too quick and slippery for me to hold down so I have to receive the pass while facing up and then move into the post. sounds like something you would be able to do since you appear to have somewhat of a face up game.

 

Some good advice on going to the ball, but if you have good position down low you don't want to ruin it moving too far out to receive the pass. That's why you push him back with your arm or (as was mentioned) with your butt. If you want to turn and face him up then you should go to the ball everytime.

 

Put your behind on the guy and work him like you're boxing out for a rebound. Give the passer a target but be aware that he can see things you can't... for instance, if another defender is slacking off his man and may be able to grab the pass if it goes where the target is... it's up to the passer to deliver the ball to a spot where you can get it but the defense can't. If he's really good, he'll get it to you in a place where you can make a strong move. It's your responsibility to keep the defender on your backside and go get the pass. When the pass comes, keep contact with your defender but don't press too hard as he might pull one of those cheap "move quickly away and let you get off balance" moves.

When the pass comes in, the passer's defender will inevitably turn to see where the ball went and will probably move down a bit to see if he can cause you problems. Your passer should immediately move 2-3 steps to the appropriate side where he'll be open for a return pass and open J or cut to the backside of his defender.

It sometimes helps with sloppy entry passers to rifle them an immediate pass back right at their face. They usually get the message after a few of those. Sometimes you'll have a clueless individual who drops you the pass and then turns and runs away towards the top of the key or somewhere without giving you a target for a pass back out of the post. If your guys are doing this, slam a pass into the back of their head. That should cure them.

Sometimes it's good to have a turnover if it accomplishes something.

 

I play almost exclusively posting up. They key is to always put pressure on the defender. Make them have to try and push you off the block. Back them down strong and feel the defender with your back. If you feel him playing a little more on the right side of your body stick out your left hand to get the ball on that side and vice versa. If he is playing you pretty straigt up not favoring either side then this is the time you need to basically become Barkley. You continually put pressure on them so they can't just stand there and wait for the pass to go over or around you for it. The key is to always put your hand up where you want the ball to go. Hopefully your teammates are skilled enough to at least give you a pass where you want it. I am 6'2 and my friend is 6'5 and he played a little college ball while I didn't. But he stands no chance to guard me on the block because of this method. I always make him worry much more about me not getting position directly under the basket to steal an entry pass.

 

Lots of good advice on this thread, so I'll add one thing --

Nothing bad ever came of setting a screen.

If you're more adept at working in the post on a mismatch (rather than someone your own size), set a screen on the ballhandler's man and encourage a quick switch. Without the ball, quickly back down the smaller defender and set up (even if you're not in perfect low-block position). Even if you're at the elbow, you can reach out for what seems like an obvious entry pass (even to your clueless teammates) and go to work.

That triple-threat position, a step or two below the elbow but above the low block, that's heaven. You haven't used your dribble, you can drive, shoot or back down. Love being there. It's made a Hall of Famer out of Tim Duncan, and even extended Larry Johnson's career when he was old, bearded, and fat.

 

I was under the assumption that it was mostly his fault that the passes weren't being completed, even though HE made it seem like it was the passer's fault. In fact, he even said later in this thread that he hadn't even thought of jumping out to meet the pass and face up.

Wtf kind of player gets offered scholarships when he doesn't even know that sometimes you have to meet the post entry pass partway? I'm confused.

 

I like IVFL's "jump to the ball" approach.

My small modification would be to just stand your ground until the ball is near you, and move slightly towards the player, don't bump him but just move him off a little, and then jump to grab the bump.

p.s.: I am 5'9" and I can successfully receive an entry pass on ANYONE.

I'd like to point out that if you look at old DREAM films, you will see he slightly bumps his man as SOON as he is in the paint, to le thim know who's boss. If I can post a DREAM video of this illustration, it will help describe it...