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Halliburton building detention centers for immigrants. IOT tans out of style.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by nyquil82, Apr 19, 2006.

  1. nyquil82

    nyquil82 Member

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    $385 million from a company who overcharges to protect us against those making under $5 an hour? Does anyone think this is a waste and overkill?

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    Halliburton's Immigrant Detention Centers
    by Ruth Conniff


    While thousands of people were celebrating the contribution America's undocumented immigrants make to our economy, and demanding justice and recognition for workers who are denied basic rights, the government was making plans for large-scale detention centers in case of an "emergency influx" of immigrants.

    KBR, the Halliburton subsidiary recently reprimanded for gross overcharging in its military contracts in Iraq, won a $385 million contract to build the centers. According to the Halliburton website--www.Halliburton.com--"the contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

    What new programs might those be?

    The web was abuzz with speculation after the contract was awarded on January 24. Pacific News Service gave the most detailed analysis.

    It connected the new "immigration emergency" plans with older plans that involved imposing martial law.

    Certainly the detention centers raise the specter of WW II Japanese internment camps.

    The new facilities could be used for round-ups of Muslim Americans or other American citizens tagged as "enemy combatants.”

    The use of military personnel and military contractors in the event of a Katrina-like disaster, which the Halliburton contract provides for, brings us closer to martial law, whether it is officially declared or not.

    It also means record profits for Halliburton, which declared 2005 "the best in our 86-year history." David Lesar, Halliburton's chairman, president and CEO, declares on the company website, "For the full year 2005 we set a record for revenue and achieved net income of $2.4 billion with each of our six divisions posting record results."

    Not bad for a company that has been repeatedly cited for inflating charges and wasting taxpayer money in Iraq.

    The immigration detention centers ought to raise a red flag, not just about nepotism and waste among military contractors, but about what our government has in store for us.

    Perhaps the same energy that propelled immigrant rights into the national headlines could be harnessed to demand an explanation for what, exactly, Halliburton is helping to prepare for with this latest big chunk of taxpayer largess.

    http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-27.htm
     
  2. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    1. Halliburton - a company no liberal understands, yet they love to bash out of ignorance.

    2. Commondreams dot org? no cred at all


    next...
     
  3. nyquil82

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    1. No proof, back up with support. Hateful Ad hominem attack with no logic.
    2. No dispute, no reason, another ad hominem with no backup and coming from a guy who links non-credible sites all the time.

    Pretty weak attempt there, you get an F. try again, but this time don't spit out the same crap.
     
  4. GladiatoRowdy

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    How hard is it to understand that they have had their biggest profits ever as a result of the war in Iraq? There was once a president who said "I don't want to see a single war millionaire created in the United States as a result of this world disaster" when talking about a conflict that we were involved in.

    The only difference is that Halliburton has literally made billions, not millions.

    Can you dispute a single fact in the article?

    Indeed.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    The third post in about a week that I have caught you replying without ever addressing the substance at all.
     
  6. Saint Louis

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    Bush supporters have run out of substance. There really isn't anyway to defend Bush at this point. Bush and his administration are a joke. I hope we all survive three more years of their incompetence.
     
  7. HayesStreet

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    Well, I don't think the facts in the article are what really need a response. The company has overcharged in some instances (although that is entirely commonplace with large government contracts - that doesn't make it 'right'). The company had record profits. The won a contract. Those are the facts.

    That we are moving toward a police state, that they will be used for american muslims, that its anything like Japanese internment - those are not facts. Those are ultra-left rants which is why cites like commondreams are not the most credible sources out there.
     
  8. GreenVegan76

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    Thank God these detention centers will only be used on those pesky illegal immigrants. Otherwise, seeing that the president can name ANYONE an enemy combatant for ANY reason and hold them indefinitely without trial, I'd be worried. But as long as these centers are only used for foreigners, it's not a slide toward tyranny and martial law. Phew.
     
  9. insane man

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    i was hoping for some illegal renditions. not this detention center. this is weak.
     
  10. thacabbage

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    Sergeant Semantics: I believe the word you were looking for is 'sites...


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