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One killed in Islamist attacks on Alexandria churches

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  1. gwayneco

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060414/ts_afp/egyptcoptschurchattacks

     
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    Thanks for the new thread.

    Did you know that 30% of the threads on the first page of the D&D were started by you?
     
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    So you're telling me that people that devout their life to God are actually terrible people? I wish you would be a little more balenced in your reporting. Because of your posting, I am always reminded that my religion, and my religion alone, is evil.

    :eek:
     
  4. SamFisher

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    gwayneco you should go to India. They have lots of anti-muslim riots and massacres, especially in Gujarat state and other hindu nationalist areas. It'd be up your alley.
     
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    I know some folks who lived in Egypt for a while, and worshipped with Coptics. They said the Coptics are always under fire as a religious minority, there.

    We often make fun of the US. We talk about intolerance here. But I've been to Friday prayers at a mosque and been well received...i've spent time in a Buddhist temple here and spent the day chatting with a super-nice monk who was there...I have friends who completely disagree with me about who Christ is, but still love me as a friend. The open exchange of dialogue without violence is so great. We're very fortunate.
     
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    lots of anti-muslim riots and massacres? exaggerate much? :rolleyes:
     
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    so did u read the article i posted or not?
     
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    Yes, I did.
     
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    do you condemn the violence that was perpetrated against Muslims you read about in that article?
     
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    yeah, no sh-t, there's muslim/hindu violence and rioting in India on an almost weekly basis, often resulting in fatalities, not to mention the more horrific episodes in the past.

    Exaggerate much? No.
     
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    Yes, the man was an evil b*stard and anyone who would honor his vile memory is sick.
     
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    what makes you think this is some anti-muslim bombing?

    it could have just as easily have been another example of shia vs sunni vs Barelvi vs Deobandi vs ahmedi or salafi or whatever group conflicts there are....

    this attack seems to be a lot like recent bombings in Pakistan. Were you as quick to call those anti-muslim too?

    or this attack on the mosque could have been pakistani groups like the Laskhar-e-Toyba/Jaish-e-Muhammad trying to incite communal tensions in india. like the recent attempts by bombing temples in Varanasi:

     
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    Dude, what are you talking about, are you honestly arguing that there's not a lot of anti-muslim violence in India?
     
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    for some reason i have a feeling that the response to this will be
    "they started it"
     
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    i'm not denying that theres no anti-muslim violence in india. But I think implying it to be widespread and common is misleading and exaggerated. Describing India that way is insulting to the hundreds of millions of hindus that want no part of that kind of hatred and who work hard to maintain a secular environment in the county. Its insulting to the millions that go to great lengths to make sure that Indian muslims are as much a part of India as hindus are.

    If Gujarat style riots were the norm as you suggest, then there would have been so many more incidents like it in the past few years – theres definitely been ample opportunity for those “hindu nationalists”, and theres been plenty of incidents of anti-hindu violence that they could have used to incite more violence against muslims.

    If those types of riots were commonplace, I think you would have seen it last month when Islamic terrorists bombed some of the most sacred hindu temples in Varanasi. And you would have seen that Gujurat style violence after each of these bombings too:

    July 5, 2005 Ram Temple, Ayodhya
    November 24, 2002 Raghunath Temple, Jammu
    Sept 24, 2002 Akshardham Temple, Gandhinagar, Gujarat
    March 30, 2002 Raghunath Temple, Jammu

    (btw, 1/3rd of the people killed in the Gujarat riots were hindu -- personally, I wouldnt term those as just anti-muslim riots.)

    And not every incident of communal violence in india is a result of anti-muslim sentiment. Muslims in india are just as culpable of initiating communal tensions violence. But like their hindu counterparts, theres hundreds millions of indian muslims who want no part of that type of violence either.
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    As far as the link that Azadre posted is concerened, theres no evidence yet that the bombings in the Jama Masjid in Delhi are another example of communal violence. It just happened a few hours ago -- its way to early to conclude anything.

    Heres hoping people take the advice of Syed Ahmed Bukhari, Shahi Imam of the Jama Masjid, and remain calm so that the police can concentrate on catching the perpetrators of this act.
     

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