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Bank of Wal-Mart?

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  1. Lil Pun

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    Wal-Mart to Seek FDIC OK on Bank Plans

    BENTONVILLE, Ark. - Wal-Mart Stores Inc., ever looking for ways to expand its already huge empire, is asking the government for permission to move into an entirely different industry: running its own in-house bank.

    The world's largest retailer will ask the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Monday for permission to open a bank that can process millions of checks and credit card payments each month. The company says it's not interested in running a consumer bank as well, but some of its opponents still fear such a step could hurt local banks much like the mom-and-pop stores were during Wal-Mart's rapid expansion.

    This is Wal-Mart's fourth bid at running a bank — and its request unleashed an unprecedented flood of comments to the FDIC. In response, the FDIC scheduled its first public hearings ever on a bank application.

    "It's a landmark battle in both U.S. business and financial services history," said Jerry Comizio, a financial services lawyer for Thacher Proffitt & Wood LLP in Washington D.C. and a former senior attorney with the
    Securities and Exchange Commission and Deputy General Counsel of the U.S. Department of the Treasury's Office of Thrift Supervision.

    Wal-Mart says consumers and retail banks have nothing to fear. It pledges to stay out of branch banking and says it will not provide consumer lending. About 300 institutions operate branches in 1,150 Wal-Mart stores and the company says it doesn't want to compete with them.

    For opponents, those assurances ring hollow.

    "There is reason to believe that these (Wal-Mart) plans could be expansive. Wal-Mart has attempted on several occasions to enter the full-service banking business," said Art Johnson, head of government relations for the American Bankers Association, in testimony prepared for Monday's hearing. "The ABA believes that banking is too important to the nation to try such a risky experiment."

    Wal-Mart says it can save money if allowed to operate an in-house bank to handle the 140 million credit, debit card and electronic check payments it handles each year. At present, it pays outside companies to handle those transactions.

    In the past five years, Wal-Mart has tried without success to buy financial institutions in California and Oklahoma and partner with a bank in Canada. The California legislature, Congress and regulators blocked those deals over worries about big retailers getting into banking without full bank supervision.

    This time, Wal-Mart is applying for a state charter to open a special type of bank called an industrial loan corporation in Utah, where other companies including rival Target Corp. already have one. Target uses its Utah industrial bank to issue credit cards for corporate customers and says it has no plans to expand that business.

    The charter needs approval from the FDIC, which would supervise and insure its deposits. ILCs are not regulated by the
    Federal Reserve, which has oversight over traditional banks.

    While the Federal Reserve supervises the entire range of a bank's business including its holding company, state and federal oversight over ILCs does not extend to the commercial companies that run them. Opponents say this means that an ILC's owner can take more business risks than a regular bank and potentially endanger deposits insured by the FDIC.

    The first FDIC hearing will be held Monday and Tuesday in Arlington, Va., and a second one on April 25 in Overland Park, Kan.

    Wal-Mart's supporters in the hearings include the American Financial Services Association, which groups credit card issuers, mortgage and car loan providers and other consumer lenders, and the Salvation Army, which says it will be a "character witness" to talk about Wal-Mart's support for charities and disaster relief.

    Concerns are twofold. One is the mixing of banking and commerce — parts of the economy that have traditionally been separate. The other is concern that a Wal-Mart bank could swallow local banks with its national presence and deep pockets, outcompeting even large institutions such as Bank of America, Chase and Wachovia that have also grown at the expense of local ownership.

    Community bankers from across the country plan to tell the FDIC they fear an ILC charter would open the door for Wal-Mart to expand into retail banking and drive them out of town.

    "Small businesses in the community would be forced to seek banking services from their biggest competitor, Wal-Mart," wrote Charles Stones, president of the Kansas Bankers Association, in a letter to the FDIC ahead of his testimony.

    From the ABA to unions, critics also argue that a Wal-Mart bank would unfairly concentrate power over retail and consumer and small business lending in one company that is already the largest business in many small towns and rural communities.

    "A Wal-Mart bank not only dangerously mixes commerce and banking, but represents a disturbing concentration of capital in the hands of one single corporation, Wal-Mart," said Paul Blank, director of the union-funded political campaign group WakeUpWalMart.com, in testimony filed in advance with the FDIC.

    Federal Reserve officials have weighed in to urge Congress to close the legal loophole that allows nonfinancial companies like Wal-Mart to open industrial loan corporations.

    "The issue here is primarily the law and national policy on the mixing of banking and commerce. Depending on your point of view, Wal-Mart is using a valid legal means or the last remaining loophole in banking laws for a nonfinancial institution to obtain a banking charter," said Comizio, formerly with the SEC.

    Comizio said federal policy for decades has kept banks under a separate and tougher regulatory framework to limit the risk of collapse in the financial sector, which could spread through the economy faster than the failure of a nonfinancial business.

    The FDIC has not set a deadline for a decision. Acting chairman Martin Gruenberg, who took over when chairman Donald Powell became the administration's Gulf Coast reconstruction coordinator, has said he does not anticipate a decision until a new chairman is in place.

    "My sense is, whatever happens, there's going to be a court challenge," said Bert Ely, a banking consultant in Alexandria, Va., and longtime FDIC observer. If the FDIC rejects the application, Wal-Mart likely would sue, and if it approves it, the bankers and other critics could sue, Ely said.

    "There are lots of people itching to have a fight with Wal-Mart. They're a real lightning rod now," Ely said.
     
  2. KaiSeR SoZe

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    man! walmart is dominating everything!
     
  3. KingCheetah

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    The end is near.
     
  4. Invisible Fan

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    I hear the Chinese are good at math...
     
  5. Rule0001

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    i heard thats all asian people, but whats the difference? :D jk
     
  6. Jugdish

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    Mongolia is in Asia...what math are they good at--counting horses???





    I sincerely apologize to all my Mongolian friends on this board.
     
  7. Jeff

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    Those small banks worry too much. It isn't as if Wal-Mart single-handedly drove small retail businesses into the ground, often in small towns where those businesses had once thrived for generations.

    Oh, wait...
     
  8. JunkyardDwg

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    Anybody remember life before Wal-Mart?
     
  9. Deckard

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    I hope this is delayed until after the Fall elections, when hopefully a new Congress will prevent it from happening.
     
  10. Lil Pun

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    I actually do not....
     
  11. francis 4 prez

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    well isn't that the whole point of business? the strong surviving, the weak getting weeded out.
     
  12. Lil Pun

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    I think Wal-Mart is just on a whole other level though. It goes a lot deeper than that.
     
  13. ChrisBosh

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    and the rich get richer :(
     
  14. Major

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    If Target is allowed to have their own bank, I don't see how it's fair not to allow Walmart not to have one? :confused:
     
  15. pradaxpimp

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    is the service going to be piss poor? because that's walmart's main goal.
     
  16. peleincubus

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    now that was pretty funny, and pretty much true. ive been told quite a while ago walmarts service was pretty good. its sad how much money they make and how much they pay.
     
  17. Dr of Dunk

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    There was no life before Walmart...


    Actually yeah, I do... Montgomery Wards, Sears, Woolco, KMart... :)
     
  18. Yan_Yao

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    I wish I could be the new Chairman of Wal-mart, that would be extrodinary...........................

    Call me Chairman Yan of Wal-Mart, I will take that name anytime of the day.
     

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