I guess Yao's dominant performance has conquered everybod after ASG.... He 's been upgraded from a 19-9 guy to a 27-12(13?) monster....oh man, look at these numbers...
Speaking of that, I remember back in his 19-9 time many guys here tried hard to defend him from bashing ... Some said Yao's 'problem' was just mental. So true, as we've witnessed.
I understand why people are annoyed with bbs members bringing up old threads/posts but sometimes people on this board (veteran posters no less) spew crap that is unbelievable sometimes. I know people make bold predictions/opinions on things sometimes but it seems, occassionally, members say it for shock value or to stir things up. When the bold prediction/opinion turns out to be wrong later down the line, people should be called out on some of the things they have said. This whole season has been filled with idiotic threads. The first half of the season it was "Trade Yao to LA for Odom+Mihm while his trade value is still high!" or just the plain old "Yao sucks, trade him where ever". Now it's "Trade TMac now while his value is ok". Half the time, it's from posters who were praising him not too long ago. I understand it's because of his back situation but we should attempt to allow him to come back. (Top 5 player when healthy, etc. etc.) In closing, some people should be called out on some of the crap they post sometimes. It could improve the board because members would put more thought into their threads instead of putting whatever they are feeling at the moment. /end rant I just got tired of the "Yao sucks, trade him to LA" threads. I had to vent that. *Goes to sleep*
Being stupid is ok. That is why i like browsing the posts here..you never know what you will see here. Really... it is part of the charm here at clutch forum
no it is not ok If I wanted to see inane threads, I could go to realgm or espn the kneejerk repetitive threads demeans us and this forum. and you see what they get you..people pulling up old threads to say "Ha, you must be stupid to think that"
There's no doubt Yao is dominant right now. I personally hope these numbers can roll on next year. The question is, with Mcgrady back (no pun intented, ouch , sorry) will Ming be a 25 and 11 guy as he is right now, or will he defer to the perimeter play of TMac and revert to his 19 and 9 incarnation? Fact is, Yao can't carry this team (could anyone carry THIS roster? God himself maybe) and we need another superstar, but yet we need Ming to continue to ball like he is right now. That is aggressive, attacking the glass, demanding the ball and forcing his own offense when necessary. What is the likelihood of him continuing to do this next year with Mac in the lineup? I hope i'm wrong - but I can see him ducking back in his shell.
God wanted Jesus to be born in Australia, however he couldn't find three wise men and a virgin.." Rockets2K- When the hell did you Yanks start making jokes about Aussies? Haha. Strangely enough I've heard that same joke made about Americans...at least thats the way it gets told in every other country in our world. Shame a majority of the US isn't aware there actually ARE any other countries And while i'm on homeland topics, Andrew Bogut will be a very good player in the NBA. As soon as he gets a chance to play more minutes where he's currently in a battle with Magloire and Joe Smith, you will start to see Yao-like improvements (not saying he's gonna be Yao, but you know what i'm getting at)
Its a myth that Yao only turned into this 28pts 12rbs guy after TMac left, he was carrying the team and putting up this number while TMac was still playing after coming back from the injury. People tend to forget that we won 10 of 14 games during that stretch when both were playing and Yao pretty much carried the team to most of the wins. He started his dominant play after recovering from injury, not because TMac left. 25pts and 11rbs is something I expect him to do next season (already down on his post-allstars number that I mentioned earlier) and there are just about no way he will regress to a 19pts 9rbs guy next season baring injury (*touch wood*). -G'day-
I dont remember where I got it from...but one of my favorite people(that I happen to have met from here) loves that quote...I figure if a Aussie likes it, it cant be all bad. Dont look at it as a insult....I actually am a big fan of Australia...hell, Id live there if I could...but Smeggy would fly me back over here personally...since Im his main source of Rockets games. Its a joke...I could just as easily use a joke about the US, but that is like fishing in a barrel with dynamite....too damn easy. now now....dont be that way...assuming that every american is just like the stereotype would be like me assuming that every Aussie is like The Sheephearders(or whatever they are called these days).
now now....dont be that way...assuming that every american is just like the stereotype would be like me assuming that every Aussie is like The Sheephearders(or whatever they are called these days). [/QUOTE] Sheepherders? okaaaaay. Thats exactly what i'm talking about! Im not here to get into a stoush with you though mate don't get me wrong. I didn't stereotype- I said a majority. Not 100%. You can't convince me that's not a valid statement, so don't even try. I've been to the USA on enoguh occassions and paid enough attention to international news, politics etc. to know this is true.
Is it just me or did this thread suddenly take on a D&D flavor? I'll have to disagree with you there. No educated "Yank" truly believes the United States is the center of the universe. If you ask me, claiming that most American people aren't even aware there are other countries is as narrow-minded a view as those held by the "blindly patriotic 'we're #1, everyone else sucks'" people to which you're referring.
If you ask me, claiming that most American people aren't even aware there are other countries is as narrow-minded a view as those held by the "blindly patriotic 'we're #1, everyone else sucks'" people to which you're referring. [/QUOTE] There is soooo much i'd like 2 say, but I'm here to talk Rockets and Basketball. If you'd like to rebut my comments on Bogut be my guest my man. I won't pull any punches on that front!
Well, feel free to start up a thread in D&D and we'll discuss the matter further. As for Bogut, I'm sure he's another one of those players that will get incrementally better as each year goes by. However, he's had the benefit of playing NCAA-level ball, which has a significantly higher level of competition than the Chinese basketball association. Hence, he really doesn't have the typical "acclimation" excuse/reason that many other international players have had (i.e. Yao). While I agree that he can only get better (especially if he leaves Milwaukee), I'm not too sure if he'll ever become a perennial All-Star type of player.
You people that want to trade KG for YAO are crazy...Yao is everything you want in a center...He has tremedous upside, great marketability, gets along with all of his teammates..works harder than anyone..is a great ambassador to the game....usually you want to trade a player for a reason..why would you trade Yao..name on thing negative abouth him..even if we hypothetically could have kobe or james..i wouldn't do that....you need an inside out game with TMAC....TMAC and KOBE/James could not co exist...you need a big man to win in this game....you people just want to put a team together of all stars without thinking about positoins or chemsitry...there is more to Bball than just putting together 5 allstars.....
hahahaha...KG for yao? the t-wolves would be on their knees begging for it! i can't believe that houston fans could possibly imagine that crappy trade then...and now he's even better, and the future is so bright! t-mac for kg? nah. fyi KG is averaging 21 pts. and 12 rebs. while yao is up at 22 and 10. Yao has more double (and triple) teams, worse calls from referees, more fouls, more blocks, more assists, less time on court, less time/touches with ball, less shots, and less stupid decisions with the ball, and his numbers are equal or a bit better...kg is so OVER FREAKING RATED! he's a walking 6-11, 220 pound commercial ADVERTISEMENT with no enthusiasm for basketball. every game is just another game for him. trade for KG? hell no, unless we trade a group of losers...
You don't even wanna get me started on the matter K. You don't either, just trust me on that one. As for Bogut, I actually agree with your sentiments. Pretty much word for word. Maybe another time, another thread, we'll come across one another again.
Hmm, is all that dramaticism necessary? You seem to be taking things a bit too personally my friend. I disagreed with you viewpoints...big deal. Did I insult you? Did I criticize Aussies in general? Nope. Hell, I spent a significant amount of time in Australia while I was at my old job, and I loved it there. I'm just trying point you in the direction of the Debate & Discussion section in case you do happen to feel the urge to "get started on the matter." Make a thread in the D&D section, and we can continue the discussion there if you like. If not, that's fine too. People are used to political incorrectness, arguing, and all sorts of insensitive comments in that forum. That's why it exists.
Well, I agree with just about you said except about KG having no enthusiasm for basketball. I think he's one of the most intense players out there. To me, KG is just a tall, athletic player, who is a great defender and rebounder. He's a scorer, but not a great shooter (like Dirk). He's also has nothing resembling a good low post game for a "big man." I'm curious why Kevin McHale haven't busted out the old Celtics tapes so KG can incorporate all those moves in his arsenal.
