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CD Stepping Down - Rockets New GM Daryl Morey

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by apostolic3, Mar 28, 2006.

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  1. Zboy

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    First test for this guy since he is a numbers guy?

    Let's see how he gets rid of Juwan Howard, since Juwan has a negtive output when he is on the court.
     
  2. declan32001

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    That's a tall order. Anything we could do to unload his contract would probably involve substantial risk. This off-season is going to be tough all the way around.
     
  3. Mordo

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    Juwan will only have 2 years left in 2007, when Morey becomes the GM. It shouldn't be too hard. If he can't get rid of Juwan in his first year, he should be able to do it by all-star break of his 2nd year.
     
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  4. Tango

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    Is it not obvious from other things already discussed in this thread? 2ndly Excuse me for not reposting the same information AGAIN from a different thread where I summed it up. Felt like a waste of time. 3rdly If a journalist posts something without spending time doing his homework, why should I waste my time showing how it wasn't done?

    Here's the logic of the article:

    (1) Morey has no basketball credentials but business credentials
    (2) Morey was a part of a due diligence groups in analysis of deals for the Celts & Red Sox
    (3) Les is rumored to ask how much the Rockets are worth

    Les is therefore has brought on Morey to sell the Rockets.

    That's all well and good except that the NYDailyTimes article ignores...

    (1) Morey's job for the Celtics was definitely about helping with personnel decisions..."Daryl was a lunchtime speaker at Sloan a couple of weeks ago. He discussed his job at the Boston Celtics. He does a lot of data analysis to help the Boston GM make decisions on which players to pick/draft/trade. Pretty interesting stuff. He says that only a handful of NBA teams are using a statistical approach to help them make decisions. I can only imagine that will change over time. And since there are so few teams that use stats heavily, it is hard to break into the field."
    http://www.rallenhome.com/blog/mit-sdm/2005/04/daryl-morey-svp-operations-and.html

    (2) Morey worked for a consulting group that helped with sports deals but left them to join the Celtics to do what he really wanted to do.
    http://mitsloan.mit.edu/mba/alumni/morey.php

    (3) Morey's own articles with the Celtics that are all about stats analysis of player & team performance:
    http://www.nba.com/celtics/stats/InsideTheNumbers_20050325.html
    http://www.nba.com/celtics/stats/ITN_20050601.html

    (4) The fact that more analytical basketball management is a budding trend in the NBA (Sonics, Mavs, Suns, now the Rockets).

    (5) That Morey himself thinks that more analytical approaches to over franchise management is in the budding..."“Also, teams used to cost less, and they tended to be owned by people who made their money in industrial businesses. That’s changing today, when sale prices run from $300 million to $1 billion and there are new, younger owners who come from venture capital, private equity, and consulting firms. The purchase is a significant portion of their portfolio, and they run the teams using an analytical approach. It adds up to a great opportunity for MBAs.” "

    Morey IMHO is being acquired for his analytical skills, but I doubt that the purpose of his analytical skillset has much to do with Les trying to sell the team.
     
  5. Deckard

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    Tango, I understand that you think Morey is an audacious hire, and I respect that, but the Rockets possibly being on the block makes perfect sense, when seen through the lens of an owner who has most of his marbles placed in this franchise, and is perfectly positioned now to make a killing on his investment.

    I don't know why you would be so quick to dismiss the possibility.
     
  6. qiaomuyihao

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    I want to smile when I hear this news.Because I think Jeff will leave with CD.
     
  7. Tango

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    I was dismissing the idea that Morey was brought on in order to sale the franchise. I thought the nydaily article was really suspect since it ignored other facts about Morey that would lead you to a different conclusion altogether.

    As for Les, who know's what he's thinking about what to do with the franchise.
     
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    I respect your opinion(s), and optimistic thoughts from intelligent posters are always good to read, but you're were coming off pretty heavy-handed here.

    I've just deleted my half-written response to your protestations both here and in the other thread, because I realized my measley post wasn't really refuted in any way. As in zilch. It could be true and Morey could be a bad hire or the News' article could be wrong. You could be right about Morey, and that would be a best case scenario IMHO, but you're way too passionate about this hire.
     
  9. Tango

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    My apologies if it was heavy-handed. You're just catching a pet-peeve of mine ;). No better way to get me on my soapbox than an example of media bias. I think the nydaily reporter either knowingly or unknowingly left out the other information about Morey that suggets the hire is for a different purpose than he claims.
     
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    Morey = Money.

    Les hired him so he can sell the team for a record price. I wouldn't be surprised if the franchise sells for $500 million 5 years down the road. Morey seems to be a guru when it comes to ticket sales, advertising, marketing, and business management.
     
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    Hopefully by then Rockets have won at least one championship. The best time to sell the franchise will be when Rockets has won a championship AND neither of Yao or Tmac's contract has run out.
     
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    I understand that completely. For me, personally one of the reasons I believe Alexander may be ready to sell is that I think we're at least two years away from serious contention. And this miserable season has tempered his enthusiasm and focused him on what he personally (and really) does best.

    I hope not. Or I hope it all just works out. :)
     
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    Hope it will be the transition for the next season!
     
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    Having been more than 2 years since Morey came on board, and with the moves he's made this summer (which now include re-signing Landry) I figured it'd be a good time to revisit this thread.

    I'm sure a lot of people have changed their tune since his hiring :cool:
     
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    It's been a very promising offseason for him. I thought the same thing last year, but Francis and James turned out to be busts. I think a proper evaluation should wait until after the season.
     
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    i dont know man this team is stacked. our worst player could turn out to be luther head and i think he is a lot better then people give him credit for. he just had a terrible series in the playoffs.

    from top to bottom this team has a chance to be the best team since that 72 win bulls team. all these guys are very very hungry.

    only thing standing in the way is injuries. its gonna be a fun season.
     
  17. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    I totally agree, but I have to ask was this worth a bump? I'd say it's warranted to start a new thread, but i could be wrong.
     
  18. Fullcourt

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    Those were both good moves, even if they didn't pay off like we wanted them to. We got rid of Juwan Howard for Mike James, and Steve came dirt cheap. If we didn't get Mike James, we wouldn't have made the move with NO for Bobby Jackson. If we didn't make the move for Bobby Jackson, we wouldn't have Artest.
     
  19. wreck

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    we traded james for bobby jackson and got artest. id score that as a win.

    francis cost 1 mil. he got injured and didnt directly affect the team negatively (remember the game winner)

    he has done a great job, just compare the team he inherited to the team going into training camp. all he can do is work with what he has and he had NOTHING to work with last offseason and somehow turned it into the team we have today.

    there is no evaluate last year or this year, hes done his job and more. before he came we had zero young prospects, now we have 3 (scola, landry, brooks).

    also he just set up the team its not like he plays the games or coaches them or can control injury. if we have yao maybe we make the conference finals.

    now its up to the players.
     
  20. topfive

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    What's amazing is that some STILL haven't changed their tune. I still see the term "moneyball GM" thrown around derisively here pretty often. But even if we win the whole thing this year, those people will say it's because CD brought in T-Mac and Yao.

    It's relatively easy to land a superstar player, and maybe even two. But after doing that, using the remaining cap space to bring in a quality supporting crew is a b**** -- just ask the Cavs, the Nets, etc. Morey has already passed that test. And the teams that win multiple championships these days tend to have a star or two and a great supporting cast (Spurs, Pistons...).
     
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