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Rodney Carney

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by studogg, Mar 25, 2006.

  1. studogg

    studogg Member

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    Is he the man the Rockets should be targeting? Given his ability to play strong defense, his length and outside shot, I think he would be a fantastic fit. Also, I believe there is a chance he could be around when we pick (if we play our balls right).




    nbadraft.net link

    NBA Comparison: Richard Jefferson

    Strengths: Highlight reel waiting to happen ... One of the most athletic players in all of college basketball … Jump shot has improved ... Big upside… Long and lean … Very versatile… Great elevation on jumper which is nearly impossible to block… Confident… Good poise … Pesky defender … Blankets defenders with his long arms and quick feet… Anticipates well and plays the passing lanes for steals ... Really gets up and grabs rebounds … Excellent speed and quickness …

    Weaknesses: Needs to add strength, put time in the weight room and bulk up some ... Can be prone to taking bad shots at times … Forces shots … Must become better at handling the ball and creating offense for himself ... Settles with the outside shot instead of trying to get something easier … Lacks great vision and passing ability ... Needs to shoot with more consistency… Can be too reliant on his athleticism ... Needs to get a little tougher on the court ... Too right hand dependent, needs to become better at handling with his left hand ...

    Notes: Indiana State high jump champion in high school clearing 6-feet-11 ... His mother, DeAndra Ware, was the state champion in Indiana High School track and field and held the world record in the 60-yard dash ... Brother of former Tennessee star Ron Slay ...
     
  2. RocketFan007

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    I think he's a top 7 pick, which means we likely won't be getting him.
     
  3. studogg

    studogg Member

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    I guess I'm blind, this should have just been a comment in the first round pick thread. Sorry, lock it up.
     
  4. gucci888

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    I really like Carney and I think he would be a nice fit with this team. He's likely to go in the Top 8 so I doubt we'll get a chance at him.

    He's got good size and athleticism, he's got pretty good range, and can get to the basket quite easily.
     
  5. Outlier

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    My post in another topic:

    And his game tonight looks like he is going to fall... farther than our draft pick.
     
  6. gucci888

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    One game isn't going to decifer anything, even with Aldridge's terrible performance today, he'll still be a Top 2 pick.

    Winning attitude? Memphis has been one of the top teams in the nation this season and Carney is their best player.

    He doesn't have the best handles, but that can improve. He is already a good scorer than drive and shoot the trey.
     
  7. Outlier

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    I have been watching him for a while, he is a very inconsistent player. For example, if he misses his first few treys, he disappears. Reminds me very much like Derek Anderson.

    And I did mean winning attitude... like I said, he usually disappears in games.
     
  8. studogg

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    I hear what your saying and appreciate your input.

    To me, the distinction between 2-3 is pretty negligible (sp?). He can play defense against 2's, which is what we want, and with McGrady, he can act as a secondary player on offense anyway.

    I like his size alot and with the new rules, and our size deficiency, I think he fits in that role. I do agree about the lack of winning attitude and that concerns me, but there isn't anyone in this draft that doesn't have a red flage on them. With last year's being such a deep draft (given the eligibility rule), this one is full of that damn "p" word with nobody proven.

    I also think that a combo 2-3 that can slash, shoot and d up is exactly what this team is missing. Maybe he's that player, maybe he's not. I'll say this though, if he is like a young Derek Anderson, I'll take him.
     
  9. glynch

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    I think that after the completely miserable game he had with UCLA he wil be avialable for us.

    Did he show any game in the previous rounds?

    He strikes me like a Stromile Swift type. Great physical ability but............
     
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    He's nothing like Stromile Swift. Carney unlike Swift is a gifted defender who, even when he's having a bad offensive night, is always on is defensive game. Seems like a player Van Gundy would love.
     
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    Whats one of the biggest problems with the rockets?

    They are INCONSISTENT. Drafting an inconsistent guy has no purpose to it. He is so inconsistent that he doesnt even hit 40%.
     
  12. Outlier

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    Exactly.
     
  13. gucci888

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    Actually, the biggest problem with the Rockets was lack of shooting and defense in the guards.

    I'm assuming you mean 40% from 3-pt since he does shoot 44% FG, but that has doesn't mean he is inconsistent, it just means he isn't the greatest 3-pt shooter.

    If you're just looking for a 3-pt shooter, then Carney probably isn't your guy. But if you want an athletic SG with size that can create his own shot and is a decent 3-pt shooter (39% isn't bad) then Carney would be the perfect choice. BTW, Carney is a pretty good defender as well.
     
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    i don't know where those of you who think he's top 7/8 are getting your info from. that guy is going in the 12-16 range.
     
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    www.nbadraft.net
    http://probasketball.about.com/od/nbadraft/l/bl_mockdraft_a.htm
    http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/Draft/mockdraft.htm
    http://www.insidehoops.com/nba-mock-draft.shtml

    A couple sights also have him going in the 12-16 range as well, but a lot of ones I've seen have him going somewhere between #7-#10, which is probably where we will be selecting (hopefully :cool: ).
     
  16. MONON

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    Let's face it, whom ever we pick will be an upgrade to what we have now!
     
  17. Jacquescas

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    i dont understand why everyone thinks we are gong to win a ton of games the rest of the way. As it stands today we are sitting on the 10th pick and there are 3 teams within a game and a half of us that, over the last 10 games have had a much better record than us. with about 10-12 games left they should all pass us and we should fall comfortably in the 5-8 pick range. (range people)

    I'd perfer Brandon Roy to Carney but i think he will be the first guard off the board probably around the 5-7 spot. dpending on who stays and who comes out
     
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    It's a tough call, it really is. Those are my top two swingmen that we have a realistic shot at as well, and its so difficult since each has their own stengths/weaknesses that can be argued better suit the Rockets. Personally, I prefer Carney because of his athleticism and potential on both ends of the floor. Carney is so gifted offensively and possesses all the tools necessary to become a lock-down defender on the next level.

    I can see Carney becomming a cross between Richard Jefferson and Andre Iguodala. Jefferson, because of the prototypical wingman body he has combined with his offensive arsenal. Iguodala, because although Carney has never been considered a great defender, he has a massive wingspan and all the tools needed to become a force defensively. Like Iguodala, he has freakish athleticism and is a former track athlete turned basketball player.

    I also really like any scenario where we add a perimeter defender capable of handling the more difficult SG/SF assignment so T-Mac doesn't have to.
     
  19. hashmander

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    nbadraft.net's mocks are only good the day before the draft. that's when they do their final revision and usually get most of them right. their earlier mocks are always r****ded. those other links are just plain wrong. no way does brandon roy go 14th. these guys are just pulling stuff out of their you know where and they don't scout.

    if you want real scouting go to draftexpress.com or espn insider.
     
  20. Outlier

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    I hope you actually watch him play and not go by scouting reports from nbadraft. :rolleyes:

    There are always these absurd comparisons every year... it's funny. About 80% of them don't even pan out.

    I am not convinced with Carney at all, let him go to a different team.
     

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