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When will Yao Ming peak to be in his prime ???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pryuen, Mar 25, 2006.

  1. pryuen

    pryuen Member

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    This is an article that came out in sina.com 4 days ago right after the loss to LA Clippers when Yao Ming cracked the 5,000 career points scored landmark.

    What do you guys think ??

    8,000 points for the next 4 season ??? 24.4 ppg for the next 4 seasons ??? Achievable ???

    When do you think Yao Ming will peak and be in his prime ??


     
  2. pchan

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    I think in a year or two, yao would be averaging about 30 pts and 12 rebound and about 2 blks a game.

    And I don't know if that would be his peak.

    Anyhow, wasn't there one poster who has said a few years ago Yao has peaked already? something like that? anyone remember?
     
  3. Omer

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    Well this is the plan in my opinion.
    If everything goes well this is how it should work out.

    Next season, Yao peaks and starts his "prime."
    T-Mac is back healthier than this season, plays like his old self.
    McGrady drops ~28 PPG/7 RPG/5 APG with Yao's ~25 PPG/11 RPG.
    The Yao-Mac combo take over and destroy the league.
    Rockets go and win it, '07 World Champions.

    Man, that would be a dream come true.
    It's possible!
    Don't get your hopes down.
     
  4. Pipe

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    Yao can easily average 25 ppg for the prime of his career.

    There are alot of reasons to think that Yao will peak later in his career (28 to 30).

    Big men traditionally peak later. Hakeem probably peaked when he was 30 (obviously not just considering statistics).

    Yao started so much further behind in terms of the quality of competition. He also has had to adjust culturally.

    Yao doesn't rely on his athleticism so much, and his strength and conditioning will continue to improve.
     
  5. RocketForever

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    True, he can't get any slower...being slow in relative to the speed in the NBA.
     
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    Between the age Period of 28 to 32. he will dominate with unbeliveble force. 26 to 31 points. 12 to 14 rebounds.
     
  7. zhao1109

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    I feel he can reach 25 pts and 11 rbs
     
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    I believe the rebounding. But the scoring? I don't know. It's not that he's not capable of it. It's just that it isn't likely to happen with a healthy T-Mac. Yao will never be Dream, who's best scoring season was 26 or so ppg. I do see Yao dropping 24-25 for several years. But 30? I am hopeful but doubtful about that. But 25 and 12 could be an MVP season for Yao.
     
  9. pryuen

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    I also doubted about Yao Ming getting 30 ppg. But I also doubted about TMAC ever to become 100% healthy. His back spasms will be with him for the rest of his career, I think. I hope I'm wrong about it.
     
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    For the best interest of Tmac AND the team, Yao should be the focus point on offense from now on. I believe Tmac just can't take the physical punishment when he drives to the basket night in and night out. We have all seen what could happen if he took a hard foul and fell to the ground. People critisize him for not driving enough, I say that's prudent and better for the team in the long term. Even when Yao is the focus point of the offense, I don't think Yao will average 30 ppg a season, 27 ppg is about the peak for him.
     
  11. Kyrodis

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    Didn't we have a thread on this just last week?

    ...and Yetti was claiming Yao would average 35/13 for several seasons and surpass Kareem, Hakeem, and Shaq on the all-time great centers list? :)

    Good to see I'm not the only one who thinks 30 points/game is VERY difficult to achieve for big men. Kareem himself has only gotten there 3-4 times in his extremely long career. Shaq and Hakeem have never broken 30 points a game. In today's NBA, with zone defenses and such, I doubt Yao will ever get to past the 30 point plateau for an entire season.
     
  12. pryuen

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    I'm sorry that this is a duplicated thread. :eek:

    But I thought the article was an interesting one. So I just translated it, and try to use it as the topic of discussion here.
     
  13. Kyrodis

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    Hey, I'm not criticizing the thread, and we all appreciate the translations you've been doing recently.

    Just experienced a bit of deja vu with this thread is all. ;)
     
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    I think he will prolly peak at around 28-30 and he will average 31pts. and 14 rebs a game during this time... If he can improve on his stanama he will reach those number with out a problem!!
     
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    EXACTLY what I thought too.

    As a matter of fact, if I did not remember it wrong, that was what JVG had in mind early last season when TMAC first joined, using Yao Ming as the Go-To-Guy in offense, applying the inside-out game plan/strategies.

    But regretably Yao Ming was not yet ready then. So after a face-to-face talk with JVG, TMAC was sort-of released from his original second-fiddler role.

    Now that with Yao Ming becoming much stronger and dominant down in the interior, and with the worrying state of TMAC's back, it maybe time to revert to that genuine inside-out game plan/strategies, deploying Yao Ming as the Go-To-Guy in offense, and TMAC will be the match maker, passer, and clutch finisher, a role that probably will protect him from fruther aggravating his back.
     
  16. pchan

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    I think Yao can get 30 ppg because once T-mac comes back.. the defense can't continue to lock down on Yao like they do now.

    Also, I am believing/hoping that the rox would eventually get some better role players and shooters around yao. Shaq can't really average 30 ppg because he can't hit free throw! Look at Yao Shooting percentage (both field goal and FT). He is superb offensively, and there is really no one else out there at the center position to stop him.

    I am surprised that Hakeem never averaged over 30 ppg during the regular season though. I always remember him as unstoppable. I am sure he has averaged over 30 ppg in the playoff.
     
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    Stamina is the keyword in your response. I think that Yao has to learn to play at a level of exhaustion that most other players do not normally endure. He is of a different body structure and unless he learns how to play or endure the exhaustion levels we normally see play up to a higher standard.

    That being said, I think that it is easier to play to his strengths - which are far less than they were when he first came into the league. Even if he does not not avg 30 pts a game the Rockets with Tmac and Yao will be a formidable contender for years.

    GO ROCKETS!!!!
     
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    Yao Ming is in his prime right now. I don't think it's realistic to expect anything better than what we got from him in the second half of the season. That has been MVP type of numbers.
     
  19. syin1

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    I don't believe you guys right now!! All assumptions could be absurd until they actually happen. Continue to play with your pipe dreams, though. :D :D
     
  20. New Jack

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    In his prime, I’m expecting about the same points per game as he’s averaging now, but much more efficient on offense. Making around 58% of his shots instead of the 51% he makes now. I’m hoping he never does average 30 points a game, because that would mean his supporting cast sucks.
     

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