With no TMac in the line-up... AND defenses literally swarming Yao with 2-3 guys... AND our scrubs clanking shots... ...it's time to let Yao step out and start firing jumpers over defenders! Teams are denying Yao the ball in the paint and daring our other players to beat them over the top. It sure seems to be working. Why not let Yao step out and try draining some jumpers?? It's worth the risk IMO. No one else seems to be able to hit a shot consistently. It's time to FREE YAO!
yao's mid-range jump shot was not that accuracy or consistent as most of those prinston fans expected, and when yao on the high post, he also could not dirrble or pass the ball well,so,stop this kind of nosense... i just couldnt understand why your guys not satisfied with the situation right now, yao got his stastics, rockets heading to the lottery,maybe injury worth to be concerned,if Gundy keep using yao so hard,look at today,why yao still in the court during the trash time?
The way alston been shooting.. I say let's post-up alston in the left block and let him do his things.. they would be force to double or triple him.. then he can kick it out to Yao for a mid range jumper.
Look, I disagree with the opening post about letting Yao take that many jumpers, but he's got a steady mid-range game. And he can find backdoor cutters if they're there. I know this because I've seen it done this year already. He hits jumpshots and has alley-ooped to Tmac from the FT line. He's already got the skills to do these things. Many didn't think yao had what it took to be a dominant force down low yet he has. If he had to operate from the high post do you really think it would be that hard for him? Do you really doubt him at this point?
And according to 82games, you'd be wrong. Yao hits 37.5% of his jumpers. Alston hits 43.6%, Luther Head 45.8%, Juwan Howard 45.1%, David Wesley 48.4%, Brunson 41.2% and Keith Bogans 39.6% When it comes to mid-range and beyond Yao is barely above Chuck Hayes at 36.4%. (McGrady is 41.5%) Yao having a long-distance shot is IMHO a myth.
True, and that's because his game is centered around the low post. He *can* be an excellent midrange shooter, but that's not where he's most effective, and we can't expect him to just turn on the shot because he's getting tripled down low. Let him play to his strengths. A jumpshooting Yao is not good for the Rockets.
Maybe its because Yao rarely takes jumpers and a good proportion of which are taken when the clock is running out and he is forced to take one? Something to consider. -G'day-
We should run a 4 1 offense. 4 people on the perimiter and just have Yao banging down low. Keep the lane clear of bodies except for Yao. If they double/triple him, throw it to our shooters. Oh yeah, we need shooters. Only time Yao comes out to mid range is to set a screen and roll. Or if he doesn't want to roll, let him have that 15-17 foot jumper. I think it would work a lot better than any crap we have going. I loved the T-Mac/Yao screen n roll, it was amazing. It almost always resulted in a layup/dunk for Yao or an open J for T-Mac. JVG's style is not bad, but it's just not for this team. IMO, I think this team would benefit a different style of play.
Exactly. And he doesn't command a double (or triple) team when he's out of the low box. Meaning everyone else on the defense is playing straight-up man for man and they are all defending the passing lanes. We don't have players with enough footspeed to backdoor effectively and we are dreadful at finishing around the basket. The answer to the dilemma is a weakside slasher since the SG position is almost always on the opposite side of the court from Yao (and McGrady). Which is why I'm opposed to a spot-up shooter like Redick and more in favor of a slasher/finisher.
82games only has stats from 02-03 and beyond. Those were all post JVG. They don't have any stats before that time.
I guess there is some mistake...yao definitely can shot the mid-range,but pay attention to one preclude, they must be open shots, in other words, if someone was contesting yao,even on a pick-and -roll situation,the defence rotation resulted some small guys on yao,that would be hard for him to keep accuracy .IMO,yao's agility and ballhanding skills was not that well for some changings,so if he took the ball ,and only have one option,it's easy for the defender to pick up. And we suppose yao can shot the ball from the mid-range for about 50% percent (which is apparantly impossible),so what?just for some relief? yao got some 4-6points form mid-range,then he could be more dominant in the paint?i doubt he may destroyed his rhythm actually.the point is,the best position for yao is low post,i know that's kind of mechanic, but our system was based on that,yao is far away from brad miller when comparing passing ablities,not even mention his idol sabonis,actually,yao's court version and pass skills was kind of limited or overrated,but as we all see the past month, when he has no problem with stamina,he is the best traditional center in the nba right now,hey dude, so why we use our weakness to face the enemy,believe,Gundy do know how to coach yao.
You'd have a point if he where the only one taking mid-range shots with the clock running down. My guess is there is an equal distribution on the whole team.
What's your point? The stats I quoted are from the current season. Yao's mid-range shot was 35.6% in 2002-03 (Rudy T).
Exactly. When JVG said 3 weeks (or so) ago that Thibodeaux went to him an suggested Yao shoot more from the outside it was assumed T-Mac would be on the court. That made a lot of sense because Yao can hit the mid-range stuff and it opens lanes for T-Mac to drive through. Yao takes up a lot of area in the lane. Offensively sometimes that's good because Yao screens off 1 or 2 guys if he sees what's coming. I think Head's recent play has been a great example of this. But even when T-Mac said he felt great this year he wasn't driving the lane very much, and when he did he and Yao weren't connecting very often. And T-Mac was often driving into no-man's-land. Their chemistry has been decimated by injury, but T-Mac and Yao showed late last season how they can complement each other very well. This year we didn't have the chance to see it much. But now if Yao's goes out to 15' he'll still have 2 guys on him and it still doesn't seem like it would be a high percentage play to me. Longterm I think it's a good idea because it would be less pounding for Yao to absorb.
Interesting numbers. I've always felt that Yao's jumpshot has deteriorated steadily from his rookie year. In Yao's rookie year, his face-up jumper from 18 feet was one of the best that I've seen from a big man and it was one of his main offensive weapons. Last year, Yao hit 42.8% of his jumpers and his jump shooting % should be even higher in the 2 years before, at least that's my impression from watching the games (I couldn't find stats on 82games.com for those years).
Indeed, and it's even more interesting how his offensive production has continued to increase at the same time ... now he hardly ever takes jumpers and he's an offensive monster. For all the crying and ranting, Yao had 25 points and 17 rebounds! The last thing we should be trying to fix is Yao's offensive game...that wouldn't be smart at all. The T-Mac/Yao pick and roll isn't working this year because there is no T-Mac. Simplicity isn't that hard to accept.