As you may know, the pentagon release thousands of previously untranslated douments to the public yesterday. The may be found here.. It will be some time before they're all translated, and even longer before a consensus emerges as to what they mean, what Saddam's intentions were, WMD, links to terrorists. A few have already been translated. I'll add them here as they become available.
From Blogger Iraq The Model: http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/translated document 001.pdf Link above will open a pdf. Note the date at the end. -- In the name of God the merciful the compassionate Presidency of the Republic Intelligence Service 2/913/5th directorate Sir: Director General of the 5th directorate Subject: Information Our Afghani source #002 (info on him in paper slip '1') has informed us that Afghani consular Ahmed Dahistani (info on him in paper slip '2') had spoken before him of the following: 1-That Usama Bin Ladin and the Taliban group in Afghanistan are in contact with Iraq and that a group from the Taliban and Usama Bin Ladin's group had conducted a visit to Iraq 2-That America possesses evidence that Iraq and Usama Bin Ladin's group had cooperated to strike targets inside America 3-In case Taliban and Usama's group are proven involved in those sabotage operations, it will be possible that America directs strikes at Iraq and Afghanistan 4-That the Afghani consular had heard about the Iraq connections with Usama Bin Ladin's group during his presence in Iran 5-In the light of what preceded we suggest writing to the Intentions Committee about the above information Please be informed…..your feedback please…..with appreciation (signature) (signature) Information office send immediately to the Of the 5th directorate/3 Intentions Committee 9/15/2001
since you don't trust this government, i fail to see the point of your highlight. are you suggesting we shouldn't be translating them? or that when a document is translated, we should just ignore it? impugne the motives of the translator? what mark, is your point, exactly? feel free to cut and past something from daily josh if you're incapable of thinking for yourself.
geez Who pissed in your cornflakes? The point being is that it's really pathetic that you keep finding some way to justify your paranoia concerning Iraq and this illegal war that the no exit strategy president has got us into (with no way out). As you and yours are want to say, it's useless to dwell on the past. What's done is done! Why do you want to rehash settled debate? Time to move on to more constructive (or, in Jr's case, destructive) issues. [edit] And don't you think that if these documents in any way vindicated the administration, they would have trotted them out a long time ago?
It's a politcal thang. The righties are trying to create some confusion to help with the midterms. They are afraid that the public is souring on their deceptions. ********** ... Negroponte's office, under pressure from conservatives including Republican lawmakers, decided in recent days to set up a process for the material's release, which is expected to take months. The material, housed in Qatar, has already been examined by the CIA's Iraq Survey Group and continues to be scrutinized by the U.S. military for intelligence that could be acted upon. Republican lawmakers say the data could still address U.S. claims that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and had ties with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, which carried out the September 11 attacks. Both allegations helped justify a war that has become increasingly unpopular in a mid-term election year that has Republicans in Congress feeling vulnerable. But no WMD have been located in Iraq and independent investigators have found no evidence that Saddam had a collaborative relationship with al Qaeda. Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) of Pennsylvania and Rep. Pete Hoekstra of Michigan, Republicans who lobbied for the data's release, said it was important that the information be made available quickly to the public, including political "blogs." "We're hoping to unleash the power of the Internet, unleash the power of the blogosphere, to get through these documents and give us a better understanding of what was going on in Iraq before the war," said Hoekstra, chairman of the House of Representatives' Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060316/ts_nm/iraq_usa_documents_dc
makes sense Sort of like the new "Operation Swarmer" Poll at 34%? Get that wag the dog "operation" started. Show America you're doing something.
Tabling all the veracity and credibility items with raw data like this, and the fact taht most of this appears to have already been reviewed by the relevant agencies, it just doesn't even make any sense. Our Afghani source #002 (info on him in paper slip '1') has informed us that Afghani consular Ahmed Dahistani (info on him in paper slip '2') had spoken before him of the following: 1-That Usama Bin Ladin and the Taliban group in Afghanistan are in contact with Iraq and that a group from the Taliban and Usama Bin Ladin's group had conducted a visit to Iraq (Not entirely unbelievable, Al Qaeda and Taliban folks visited lots of countries, such as: the US, Saudi Arabia, etc etc etc. ) 2-That America possesses evidence that Iraq and Usama Bin Ladin's group had cooperated to strike targets inside America (So .... where in fact is this evidence? Cause we sure haven't seen it over the last five years? I suppose GWB has been nobly sitting on it? Or is the evidence this document itself, which I think would have to involve some sort of time travel combined with circular reasoning - fun) 3-In case Taliban and Usama's group are proven involved in those sabotage operations, it will be possible that America directs strikes at Iraq and Afghanistan (Yup, and we did - good prediction nostradamus, I would have never called that one) 4-That the Afghani consular had heard about the Iraq connections with Usama Bin Ladin's group during his presence in Iran (This is the only thing that is even vaguely potentially notable. But that's all we got? Third hand unspecified info of an undefined connection, coming from unspecified contacts in Iran (which hated both the Taliban and Iraq, and which is the big winner from the Iraqi invasion misadventure)? . No wonder the relevant intelligence agencies put very little stock in something like this. But I guess it's enough if you've got an agenda. hey, wasn't the war pretty much always about democracy anyway according to the revisionist rationale? Why re-hash?
this is one of over 48k boxes worth of documents (it's going to be a long thread), so the triumphalist crowing of "is that all you got" may be a little premature. just sayin' you might want to wait a bit, and judge the source material for yourself before you dismiss it all out of hand. and mc josh, it's not settled debate- your mind may be closed, but that doesn't mean the issue is.
Well, we've waited for 5 years and there's really nothing of consequence, and there's no such thing as a time machine no matter the result, so I'll keep waiting away until the folks down at techcentralstation dig up their Arabic-English dictionaries.
Man. It better be a political stunt or this is the most complete admission of National Security and Intelligence failure in the history of this great country. The Chairman of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence needs bloggers to help understand "what was going on in Iraq before the war?" Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we spending billions of dollars each year on Intelligence functions? Presumably, this would include translation and interpretation and fact-checking and such. Shouldn't we have put some of that to use? I guess it's no match for the computing and intellectual firepower a handful of Rightie bloggers with high-speed lines can bring to the task. Another feather for privatization of the Federal Government! God help us all.
they fired a bunch of translators because they like hot, sweaty, gay sex. **********s should've been thinking about national security, rather than whether the translators liked sucking, uhhhh...
But the NSC wasn't having meetings on "Plans for a Post Paul Martin Canada" the first week after Bush was sworn in in 2001. http://thepriceofloyalty.ronsuskind.com/thebushfiles/archives/000067.html I'm not talking about dusty pentagon contingency studies sittign on a shelf somewhere next to the crate with the Ark of the Covenant in it.
either this is the best you can come up with or its just a joke.. so what does this iraqi document horde tell us??
