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Chron: Mcgrady Receives a Shot in his Back

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by oschadha, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. oschadha

    oschadha Contributing Member

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    Some cryptic quotes if you ask me.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/3726976.html


    March 15, 2006, 11:30PM
    Shot means no McGrady
    Rockets star barred from play after treatment


    By JONATHAN FEIGEN
    Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

    Rockets forward Tracy McGrady received an anti-inflammatory injection on Wednesday to treat his injured lower back, a treatment that bars him from any physical activity and would explain how the team could estimate how long McGrady would be out before it had completed testing.

    MRIs performed on Saturday and Wednesday and other tests performed on McGrady showed no damage beyond the injury suffered when he fell March 5 against the Portland Trail Blazers. McGrady has suffered back spasms since the Rockets' practice Nov. 4, saying he has a bulging disc.

    McGrady was declared out for as much as five weeks after he was examined last week by specialist Robert Watkins in Los Angeles. That would have him returning in the final week of the season, though Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy said on Wednesday that McGrady could miss the balance of the regular season.

    "They do (consider it a solution)," Van Gundy said. "He'll be fine. Unfortunately it happens that he'll be fine in the summer instead of now.

    "They're characterizing it as two separate injuries; the problems he had with spasms throughout his career and this, being a separate thing when he fell against Portland.


    Games stacking up
    "Going forward, (McGrady) is going to have missed 35 games and a few more by not being able to finish the games," Van Gundy said. "Most of those games were home games. On top of that, he had a period in January and February, he was healthy enough. We're going to need him to be healthy and playing very, very well for us to make the improvement we want to make going forward."

    After Wednesday's 95-81 loss to the Mavericks, the Rockets are 2-17 in games that McGrady has missed, with many other players out for many of those games.

    The Rockets have had 13 players miss a combined 219 games with injuries or illness, making durability an important consideration in rebuilding.

    "Our team's lack of durability this year doesn't change in the summer," Van Gundy said. "Our lack of durability has cost us big time this year. You have to have a much more durable team, particularly your main guys. It's not our depth that's been at fault; it's that we had to go that deep without our best players too much, so we haven't had enough offense to withstand (injuries to) Yao and Tracy.

    "When you have as much of our (salary cap) wrapped up in those two guys, those guys have got to be out on the floor for you to be a good team.

    "That being said, we could play better. We didn't have to shoot 34 percent the other night. We concentrate on what we can correct. Our guards don't have to be 12 feet off their man on a pick-and-roll. That doesn't have to do with any injuries to anybody. That's correctable."


    Same hope
    The Rockets began treatments on McGrady on Wednesday with the same hope.

    "They'll keep doing tests to get more and more information," Van Gundy said, "but they're not unclear about the course of action they're taking."

    jonathan.feigen@chron.com
     
  2. droxford

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    Well, I'm pretty unclear on it.

    I mean, the article says,
    So that sounds like he only has one injury. Then it says,
    I don't get it.
     
  3. boomer83

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    I think the injury(portland fall) may have caused some inflamation to maybe the disc, hence the injections to reduce the inflamation wherever it is occuring
    and his chronic injuring i take it is the bulging disc and the back spasms as a result of the disc
    i think thats what theyre saying
     
  4. oschadha

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    I was talking about JVG's quotes. I wasn't clear on what he was exactly trying to say about the future. He talks about needing to be durable and how the team is tied up cap wise with its two best players. Is he maybe hinting at exploring trades for TMAC, or is he simply saying they need to fix him up this offseaon because they will ride him out and have no intentions of trading him. I expect and hope it is the latter.
     
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    i don't know if this has been discussed here but here's what one guy over att an orlando board said:
    "I am a rheumatologist and I mentioned several times before that Mcgrady had disk disease. Its not suprising this has happened. Tmac is damaged goods and Houston will rue the day it traded for tmac. Lumbar Spondylosis is the medical term and it typical is a chronic relapsing problem thats gets worse with age. The trade outcome is still yet to be fully measured but it looks like Orlando has gotten the better end of the deal with Darko ,Arroyo and Penny cap space for Tmac Francis and next years number one."

    and this is from another guy who has some inside info on the magic from time to time in response:
    "That is exactly what my wife said. She said it will be worse than Grant HIll, becuase there is NO SURGERY to cure it. There is only surgeries to help get rid of the pain and most of the time you end up having to have the disk fused. Whcih would mean no more career.

    I know this is one MAJOR reason the Magic were really not looking forward to having to sign TMAC up to a huge deal."

    have the rockets talked about t-macs problems as a disease?
     
  6. michecon

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    What does this mean?
     
  7. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    So if I'm reading correctly he already had the bulging disk/spasms.

    And I'm taking it that the surgery option would be for the the bulging disk.

    So exactly what is the injury that happened against Portland?
     
  8. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    I'm really surprised there isn't more interest in this. At this point it is the crux of the Rocket's success and future. Everything depends on it.
     
  9. emjohn

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    Have they talked about it as a disease - of course not. The NBA as a whole covers up health issues like this all the time. No fan would react well to hearing that Superstar X is playing on borrowed time. TONS of players are just quietly patched up until they just can not physically go anymore (Houston, Penny, Webber, Pippen, Mashburn, Larry Johnson, Tim Hardaway, etc). So many guys end their careers playing with no cartilage in their knees, no mobility in their ankles, and end up with artificial joints in their 40s.

    What they're saying about McGrady is mostly right, if exaggerated a bit. Degenerative disc disease isn't going to take McGrady out of the league in the next year or three. However, he does have a bad back, and a bulging disc is NOT something that will just go away with rest. The injections and rest will make so that it's not killing him day-to-day, but the second he starts balling again, it will come RIGHT back. The cortisone shot they gave him is NOT going to solve the problem, just allieviate the nerve pinching.

    Surgery will have to happen eventually, in all likelihood. I have a hard time believing hee'd have the disc removed and vertebrae fused - that's Orlando bitterness talking. A paritial laminectomy or microdisectomy would involve going in and "shaving" off the bulging portion of the disc so it won't pinch his (sciatic) nerve anymore. The major downside of this is the surgeons have to tear open his lower back muscle to get at it, and that will lead to a painful rehab. Very few athletes can fully return to form after major back work, and there is a possiblility of it robbing McGrady of his athleticism (see: post-Grandmama incarnation of Johnson, Larry).

    Evan
     
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    In that case, we will at least have a guy can consistently knock down wide-open shots when Yao is double/triple teamed. :eek:
     
  11. EssTooKayTD

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    that is seriously depressing if that is McGrady's fate. :(
     
  12. MR. MEOWGI

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    Wow. I also have some bulging disks and I thought that is type surgery he would likely have too. I just didn't know how the surgery would affect him overall.

    There is also that treatment where they stretch you out trying to get the disk to go back in place. I wonder if that is an option.

    What exactly was the Portland injury?
     
  13. emjohn

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    He came down awkwardly after a jumper and reaggravated the problem. I believe he originally developed the slipped/bulging disc after falling hard and flat on his back Nov 4th during practice.

    Evan
     
  14. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    I thought the two were not related? :confused:
     
  15. emjohn

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    Those were not related to back spasms that he's dealt with over the course of his career. But I'm pretty sure those two (Nov 4, Mar 5) were concerned with the now bulging disc. I may be wrong though. It's always hard to tell when the team doctors/coaches/trainers/spokespeople (this goes for all of pro sports) make a habit of lying, spinning, and brushing injuries under the rug.

    Example: I still remember when Webber fell apart in the 2003 playoffs with "a jammed knee" and that summer the team very quietly disclosing that he was having "minor" surgery. Only it slipped out that part of his "minor" knee operation was microfracture therapy, which sent off collossal red flags for me.

    It is my understanding, from Portland doctors speaking off the record (no links possible) that Pippen had a degenerative back condition that they were keeping quiet (anyone else remember how after his back issues during the final Bulls run he never did seem to run the court again?).

    Evan
     
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    wow, this is a sad day if true about it being a disease.
     
  17. McGradySNKT

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    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is far from true. Tmac hurt his tailbone in POR

    He had back problems since ORL.

    In the Nov practice he was low bridged and knocked on his back.
     
  18. Rollinrockets

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    I think it is obvious that we need durable superstars/scorers. I think Yao is relatively durable. A lot of the other guys on the team arent obviously. I love Tmac but his back problems are very scary since we cannot afford to be without him for long stretches. Lets hope this type of season doesnt become the norm or he will be untradeable.
     
  19. droxford

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  20. MR. MEOWGI

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    Well Dr. Doolittle, which one is keeping him out now?
     

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