Article: JRich and Troy Murphy may be on the block

1. we have nothing to offer.
2. no, we shoudn't offer tmac.
3. troy murphy?? although he can stretch out the D, i thought you all wanted the athletic banger down low at the 4 "alongside" Yao?
4. We just need a healthy team, and to keep the young guys learning.

We will continue to fall short the more and more we change personnel.

 

The problem is this: it is ALL dependent on T-Mac's health or lack thereof...we can't know what's best for the franchise (i.e. to move him or not) unless we fully understand the prospect of him playing healthy in the future to be the "T-Mac" we wanted to pair with Yao or if he's "damaged goods".

If it's the latter, the Rox will seriously have to consider trading him for anyone, even if they get back nothing more than cap relief (i.e. expiring contracts, draft picks, etc.)

I am sure management will have a better idea in the near future as to what his prognosis are for the future.

 

daoshi, first off J-Rich is not making the Max. Far from it. He's on the second year of a 6 year 70 million deal. That's a little under $12 mill a season, which means he'll be making less than Yao (who has an extension for 70+ million but over 5 years), and FAR less than Mcgrady. In 2010 when T-mac's contract runs out, Tracy will be making about $10 million more than Richardson.

And secondly, you make it sound like he's a numbskull on the court. Maybe you've seen more games that I have, but what makes him so bad? What does he do wrong that you compare him to Stro and Francis. Everytime I see him, he's shooting well, playing athletically like always, and not making a ton of turnovers. What more do you really need with a SG.

And the biggest thing that impressed me with Richardson, is that he keeps getting better. He's one of the few players in recent memory who got better after signing a big contract. I appreciate his work ethic and how he's improved his game.

As a player and a fit for this team, I still like (a healthy) Tracy more. But that doesn't mean that J-Rich isn't a stud whose ceiling is getting higher and higher.

 

Ok, maybe my post sounds too harsh on the guy. I'm not saying he is a bad player, nor did I said SF is a bad player, I put him and Steve in the same sentence because both of them had incredble physical ability, and get paid at MAX, or near max, but never be able to play up to that standard. When I watch him play, I get heart attack because he was making bad decisions after bad decisions, both on the offensive end and defensive end. Remember people here were screaming at SF for to take extra fancy dribbling, instead of just simply shoot the ball? That's what I'm talking about with JR, he made the game much harder, and that's not a sign of smart basketball. He may be an above average player, but he should be much better than he is now, with the physical ability he has, and the contract he has.

IMO, JR is the kind of guy who can put up some good numbers, but you won't notice it because he has no, or little impact on the outcome of the games. Just look at how the Warriors doing in recent years?

 

J-Rich hasn't played with any other dominant players. He is a great player. He could very easily be the 2nd fiddle on a championship team. But he needs the championship team around him and he needs a big banana to go with him.

 

J-Rich is the younger version of Vince Carter. Seriously, they have so many similarities, same strengths/weaknesses....it's ridiculous. Vince is probably a little better but it's pretty damn close. Also kind of ironic that despite being so similar, one is probably the most overrated player in the league (VC) and the other is one of the most underrated (J-Rich).

That being said, I highly doubt they would want to move him---much less to a team in the same conference.

You want a player like J-Rich for cheap? His name is JR Smith and we need to go after him this offseason.

 

Rafer
J Rich
Tmac
Murphy
Yao

Get it done.

 

That's very offensive to me.

 

Well, clearly Richardson and Murphy would be huge upgrades for us, but their salaries are also huge and I have no idea what we could give up to get them. I'm certainly not willing to part with Yao or McGrady, and it isn't like we're one of those teams that can throw them a package of young talent and low draft picks - actually, we might have the low pick anyway. ha.

 

we don't need overpaid players.

we'll have a healthy Sura next year. A foreign star(spanoulis). a mid lottery pick and a high second round pick. That's three young guns and the mean dog back. add a healthy T-mac and a the new Yao to the mix and all that's left to be done will be a small trade, a free-agent and the stage will be set.

Now if you can come up with a trade that nets us Gerald Wallace and Okafor, then lets talk.. hehe

 

Troy Murphy is all I want

 

Troy Murphy has got RANGE on his J. I watch all the Warriors games seeing as I live in the Bay Area. Troy Murphy is relatively consistent and has some sweet range. With Troy stretching out the D, Yao can move down low with less threat of double teams. With T-Mac's ability to create for himself/his teammates, we would have a field day with most teams.

I would break out in tears of joy if we somehow managed to pull Murphy (PF), Pietrus (SF/SG), and/or Monta Ellis (PG) out of GS without trading McGrady or Yao.

I would give up anyone except those 2 to get those players.

 

I would be much more interested in getting the like of a B.Wallace or Okafor to man up the PF position.

I know that will be damn near impossible to do unless it's a sign-n-trade after Ben Wallace forces a trade to Houston

 

Yes, definitely.

 

I'm thinking the same thing. I even figured out a way it could possibly happen. If we end up with a better pick than the Hornets. And if Tyrus Thomas comes out and is avaliable at our pick, I could see us trading Thomas and Head to the Hornets for Smith and their pick.

Thomas' stock has been kind of up and down, but he's still a great talent. And the LSU connection could be valuable for the Hornets since they seem committed to going back to NOLA.

And I doubt they make the playoffs, so their pick shouldn't be that far behind ours. If we pick up the best player avaliable, and then sign V-Span, we'd instantly add some depth and young talent.

It's a lot of "ifs", but these are the kinds of shrewd deals that can present themselves if things break a certain way.

 

Except CD/JVG haven't really been "shrewd" in most of their moves.

 

That's not a bad idea at all. The only thing I would fear in this situation is the Hornets get two first rounders this year (currently 13th and 16th), that seems to have "Trade up!" written all over it.

But some kind trade of involving us trading down with our pick for JR Smith and their pick (currently 16th) is a very fair proposal. I wouldn't mind trading down four spots at all to acquire a talent like JR especially considering the middle-of-the-pack of this draft is suspect anyways.

 

If J.R. can't get it together with Byron, he won't be able to play here. I'd rather deal with GS.

GS would like to move players in this order:

1. Foyle-it's a hopeless case. Nobody in the league wants him. They are stuck until exiry year.

2. Dunleavy-they don't like him enough. And his contract is out of sight for what he's giving them. The most likely destination would be the Clippers-the Clips then have to move somebody. The logical player to trade is Maggette. We could possibly get in on a 3 way with them sending Maggette here.

3. Murphy-contract too big and he doesn't defend. He would be an upgrade for us. How much money do we have invested in JH and SS? And what are we getting for our $$$? Van Gundy could improve Murph's defense and he does hit the defensive glass. He's usually too far from the basket to help on the offensive glass. I think I would throw them our lottery pick if they would send us Murph and Pietrus in exchange for Howard, Head, and the pick.

4. Baron-only because of his contract. I can't see them moving him.

5. Pietrus-they don't really have a spot for him as long as Dunleavy is there. And he is truly a SG, not a SF. Now, if they pulled off a Dunleavy for Maggette deal, Pietrus would be more available to package with one of their bad contracts. Plus, besides that, his bball IQ is questionable. They've been trying to hide it all season in hopes of raising his perceived value.

The last player on their team they would consider trading is J-Rich. He is not a max player but plays better than half the max players in this league. He represents extreme value to them.

To me, a deal with GS makes a lot of sense, especially if we don't make the playoffs. They could wind up with 2 picks in the lottery, theirs and ours, if they would be willing to part with one young talent (Pietrus) and one mediocre talent with a bad contract (Murphy).

 

I suspect Junior requires the 'proverbial change of scenery'. He'd thrive IMO with Sloan as a Ute, or with KG, D'Antoni (maybe I coulod gthrive with him!), or Senior. Not star quality, but good contributor.

As for the revolutionary backcourt? As the Brits say, 'devolutionary' .