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Playstation Meeting later tonight/early tomorrow (PS3 info almost guaranteed)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by RC Cola, Mar 14, 2006.

  1. RC Cola

    RC Cola Member

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    So I take it you couldn't find a quote? :)

    Delaying a console is bad when you have competitor out on the market, I agree with that. But again, the only region where the PS3 has really been delayed is Japan (for which Kutaragi apologized for since he was in Tokyo after all). Unless, of course, you were expecting the PS3 to be on store shelves in the US, the UK, Australia, Korea, etc. by June. I guess in that case, it would be delay for all regions, which would be a big blow to Sony.

    The way I see things, Sony won't be giving MS any more time to sell the 360 except for in Japan (and they'll be cutting the gap in regions like Europe). Sure, in a perfect world, Sony would have launched in the Spring in Japan (which it sounded like they considered), but I don't see the delay in Japan, despite not being good news, really hurting Sony that much. Kind of like hearing that Ryan Bowen will be out for 6 weeks due to a Chuck Norris kick. Sure, that's bad news, but it won't really affect the Rockets that much.

    Perhaps if the 360 begins selling better than the original Xbox and on par to the PS2 or something like that, it might be more of an issue. But until then, this is far from a "big blow" to Sony, at least IMO. Not entirely good news either, but also not entirely "SONY AM DOOMED!" news.
     
  2. SamFisher

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    if I'm reading the article on gamespot correctly - Sony announced that

    1. HDD is required for all games

    2. It is undecided whether or not the HDD will be standard with PS3's if/when they hit the shelves in November

    ....so they had a press conference to announce that there's a required peripheral that you may have to buy separately in November?

    - ummm, Kutaragi, I think the market for people who want PS3s unable to play games is pretty small (although RC might buy one anyway... :p )

    My god, that's an abortion on that front. Talk about dropping the ball.
     
  3. Davidoff

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    delete
     
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  4. UTweezer

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    While delaying the console isn't a good thing...I am one of the many that decided to pass on the 360. Eventhough it's delayed 'till xmas, I'm still getting the PS3. My xbox and ps2 will suffice until then.

    I just think the PS3 is a step ahead in design, functionality, and more importantly depth of game library (the latter maybe not intially).

    RC...do you have any idea when the pre-orders start?
     
  5. Svpernaut

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    Pre-Orders started months ago... and if you go to Gamestop or others you won't be on the first shipment regardless of what they tell you. Your best bet is to camp.
     
  6. Phreak3

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    I'm just wondering if this delay is affecting developers for the PS3? Like they can't get their hands on development kits or whatever.. and will need to delay development. To me, this seems like the biggest concern. If PS3 launches in November with games like Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom, it's going to be DOA.
     
  7. Svpernaut

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    This is a big deal for the developers too... Sony has released development kits, DD would be a better person to comment on something like this... on how difficult it would be to not know the launch or even the final configuration of the hardware.
     
  8. UTweezer

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    the preorder your talking about is for the games NOT for the console
     
  9. Svpernaut

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    I haven't looked into it too much from the fact that preorders are generally a crappy way of getting consoles on the first day, but the two Gamestops I've been too that I asked about it said they were taking preorders. I guess they could have been 6 bucks an hour "bs lines" but they told me that pre-orders were filled for the first two shipments of PS3s, the truth to that is beyond me because I never pre-order. Give Gamestop a call I guess...

    If you search "PS3 Preorder" on google you can find all kinds of information on places that started taking preorders months and months ago.
     
  10. UTweezer

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    ive already googled that. no definate trustworthy info. I'll be one of the sobs probalby waiting for the "2nd" shipment
     
  11. RC Cola

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    Well, "final" kits with Cell and RSX were supposed to have gone out in January, although something is off going by the following IGN article:
    http://ps3.ign.com/articles/696/696076p1.html
    I don't know if that means the "final" kits that went out were the same as those final kits, only without the controller and BR drive, or if the Cell and RSX in those kits weren't final (or maybe RSX wasn't even included). Worse case scenario though will be that the real final kits will go out in July, giving developers 4-5 months with final kits, which is a little better than what the 360 developers had (although they probably had better development tools). Still, I'm pretty sure some developers have had a Cell workstation together with a SM 3.0 graphics card at least since late 2004 (so about 2 years with development hardware similar to the final system).

    I think the launch titles for the PS3 will be polished. Of course, they'll need to be in order to stand side-by-side with the 360 titles coming out at the same time.

    As for the preorders, AFAIK, GS and other stores have only been taking names for preorders. When they're ready to let people reserve the system, they'll call the people that they took names from (and in the order on the list). Now that there is a date for the US launch, I guess official preorders might start up pretty soon, although who knows for sure.
     
  12. RC Cola

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    FYI, but it looks like there are others that also seem to think that this delay has a "limited impact":
    http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2006/3/15-30

    http://www.forbes.com/2006/03/15/sony-playstation-gaming-cx_po_0315autofacescan01.html
    Quite a big blow indeed for Sony. ;)
     
  13. underoverup

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    well if strategy analytics connected home devices service says sony is ok then i see no problem. :eek: :confused:
     
  14. noize

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    Big freakin deal its delayed. Assumming that the PS3 had gotten a spring release in Japan as initially stated by Sony, we would still had to wait until November for a US release anyway...so its Japan that got screwd not us. Actually a world wide launch in November would be the best option b/c the European will finally be happy that they're not the last to get a system anymore. I don't think the Japanese consumer will be affected by the delay at the slightest as they worship Kutrarugi like a God and avoid the 360 like a plague. Another upside due to the delay:

    -more time for developer to tinker and play around with the Devs kit
    -fine tune the PS3 to a science
    -more time to work on the games
    -focus on making the free on-line features capability(linux) better
    -refine the controller even more
    -maximise blu-ray component within the given price tag(under $500 as stated)

    I have no problem with the delay, especially if Sony had no control over it due to difficulty finalizing the blu-ray specification. I would rather wait the xtra month to get best out of the system, then getting one that is rushed and fall short of all the feature that was expected upon initially.

    The only negative ps3 news as of late were the screenshots of Untold Legends that had been poping out from a few places. My god, what an ugly pile of crap those were! Sony should be embarassed to have that company leaked out those screen which IMO set the PS3 back a little bit. Looks like a PS2 1.5 game at best.
     
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    i agree because the current ps2 is 6 years old and going pretty strong, i won't be buying a ps3 for a year and a half or 2 years anyways. :eek: :(
     
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    So I guess everyone wins with this news. This will have a "limited impact" on the PS3, allowing it to dominate the console wars again with 100+M sales. MS will get extra marketshare in Japan :)D), the only place where the PS3 was actually delayed. And Nintendo…um…yeah everyone wins. :)
     
  18. OldManBernie

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    I don't think PS3 selling well is a foregone conclusion. XBox is going to have a full year to develop their gaming library before PS3 comes out. If PS3 doesn't have strong titles tied to it's release, they could be in for some trouble IMO.
     
  19. SamFisher

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    Especially Sony - with the HDD required to play games, and the option of selling an HDD-less PS3 on the table - the people who want a $900 doorstop are jumping for joy.
     
  20. RC Cola

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    I can't wait until Sony actually names a price for this thing.
     

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