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Would you trade Tracy now with the problems he has?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tested911, Mar 10, 2006.

  1. m_cable

    m_cable Member

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    One of these teams filled with young talent and high draft picks would probably also be willing to take the chance on T-mac. Teams like Chicago, and Atlanta who need a legit star to give them some credibility. Those are the kinds of teams that would be willing to deal. And depending on where their lottery balls end up and the prognosis on T-mac, the Rox managment may be willing to deal too.
     
  2. krocket

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    It is not so much that TMac is damaged goods, it is just now that Yao has really emerged as a force I am not sure the Rox can hang their hat on TMac to compliment Yao . It is difficult to compliment the pair of them with a good supporting cast because of the salary cap. Every team in the NBA that has 2 max super stars has the same difficulty, that is finding the supporting cast. To get TMac we traded 3/5 of our starting line-up and have never been to make up for the loss and probably never will with TMac here. TMac is a scorer, and a great one, but he is not an emotional leader and neither is Yao although Yao might be moving in that direction. The Rox have no leader at the moment and I can't imagine how we are going to find one. Trading TMac for young up-and-coming players to go with Yao may be the only way we can ever arrive at a championship team. Just my opinion.
     
  3. ShadyMcGrady

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    Tell me what you want to see T-Mac do that will make you think he's a leader? Give more high fives? Give more ass slaps? Clap more? I don't understand what an emotional leader is exactly, but please tell me.

    IMO T-Mac is the leader of this team, and if this team was healthy this season, I'm pretty sure our record would be a tad bit better.

    He's been leading teams to the playoffs, maybe not past the first round, but to the playoffs singlehandedly in Orlando 3 times.

    Don't trade T-Mac. Instead of trading T-Mac with his back problems, why don't we try moving other people around? T-Mac's back doesn't cripple him until it acts up, and that's only when it's over stressed. If he rests, he'll be good as new. The problem will never go away, but, the chances of it happening will decrease.
     
  4. JoeBarelyCares

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    San Antonio would probably never trade with the Rockets, but I would consider a TMac, Rafer and Mutombo trade for Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen and Nesterovic.
     
  5. New Jack

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    I’m kind of liking the team dynamic since Mcgrady has been out and Yao has been forced to step up. If Yao can continue to play the way he’s been playing for the rest of the season, I probably would be more inclined to trading Mcgrady and building around Yao the same way the Spurs and Mavericks have built around Duncan and Dirk. With one superstar big man surrounded by a lot of great role player/near all-star level guards (Parker, Ginobili, Finley, Terry, Josh Howard, Stack, etc.).

    I would definitely NOT trade Mcgrady for Garnett, Pierce, or Allen. Because we would essentially end up with the same problem we have right now with 2 great players surrounded by a cast of mediocre role players. If Mcgrady were dealt, we would have to get at least 2 or 3 starters out of the deal, preferably young, like to the Bulls for Hinrich/Gordon or Deng/future #1.
     
  6. Tree-Mac

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    what about t-mac for billups and hamilton?
     
  7. Riz

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    OK, first of all NO true Rockets fan likes Jazz or any Jazz players especially that malone guy and i believe TMac is gonna come out strong next season along with Yao doing what hes doing right now maybe even more and im pretty sure Tmac is gonna work on his back problem this off season and be ready to goto finals next season :D

    i cant believe you actually started this post :eek: Tmac and Yao is the best thing that happened to Rockets since Hakeem and Clyde
     
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  8. ubigred

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    some of you so called fans :rolleyes: are unbelievable.....WE ARE NOT TRADING TMAC
     
  9. Luckyazn

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    TMAC for any 2 of the Piston's starting lineup ;)
     
  10. rocketman1979

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    Iverson and Korver or Igudala for TMac?
     
  11. rocketman1979

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    Are you a San Antonio fan?

     
  12. Tree-Mac

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    fans who want tmac traded are more of rockets fans than tmac's fans. their main interest is rockets' success. they are the ones who bash tmac or yao or any rocket who cannot help the team. they are also true fans.
     
  13. krocket

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    I think you are seeing the picture I was trying to paint. TMac for all his good is 27 points a night and that's about all. 27 points can be replaced pretty easily with a trade that might help both teams. For those of you who don't know what an emotional leader of a team is, you will just have to look it up.
     
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    I would do that also.It would make our D a whole lot better...and they are more durable.I like T mac, but trading T mac could possible make the rockets alot stronger as a team depending on who the trade is for.
     
  15. kaleidosky

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    No, it is that he's untouchable.
     
  16. Matt78777

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    I say T-Mac is untouchable unless next year is a repeat of this year. If he continues to be injury proned, the rockets need to trade him or force him into retirement. Am I wrong in thinking that if he retires his contract is paid by insurance and doesn't count against the cap?

    Anyway, assuming T-Mac is back with the rockets next season, other questions must be addressed. Who to draft? Will we finally get to see spanoulis? Is Sura ever going to play? Is Wesley worth resigning? How about Bogans? What are we going to do with Jho and Swift? How are we going to use those two trade exceptions we acquired? If KG is available, is there anyway we can get a piece of that? Is JVG still going to be with us? Will Head continue to improve or slump? As far as I'm concerned, we need another scorer (preferably a shooter that can stop others from double teaming yao) and a power forward who is everything Swift was supposed to be.
     
  17. hashmander

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    yeah i guess you're right because if he's healthy the rockets would be crazy to trade him and if he isn't healthy no one will give us anything significant for him to make it worth it.
     
  18. Patience

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    ummmm...so he's had a bad year this season. But I suggest you watch the playoff series against Dallas last year and tell me Tracy was not the leader of this team.

    If you claim he only gives 27 points a night, I would have two things to say:

    a) When healthy, he is responsible for 25 points + 6 assists. Not to mention taking the burden of being the focal point of every opponent's defense. Give credit where it is due.

    b) Tracy is very clutch. You know the story of last year (SA Spurs game, playoffs against Dallas), but even in his inconsistency of this year, he has won us some games with clutch play at the end (see victories at LA Lakers, Seattle, Cleveland, etc.)

    When healthy, Tracy is a complete player. You cannot claim he is a one-dimensional gunner.
     
  19. steddinotayto

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    it's also funny to note that people can say he's only good for 27 ppg and then try to justify trading him for Ray "All I can do is shoot" Allen and Rashard "All I can do is jack up shots" Lewis.
     
  20. carlos

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    what this team needs is more athleticism/talent at the non-star postions. Tracy and Yao have to work too hard during the regular season for wins and will have nothing left for the playoffs.
     

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