texx.. so you are saying that they knew they could get away with not being on progress to graduate because the time it became an issue they would have already been in the minors? Do you know how many hours are required to be completed by end of junior year?
Exactly. They're gaming the system over there in Austin. It's not like UT-Austin is the only baseball team that loses a good % of its juniors to the draft. Most of the top 25 teams in the country face this issue. Deloss's justification is incredibly weak - how come the other schools can keep their students on progress, but UT-Austin can't? That's why the NCAA is likely to punish the horns. That old cooter Garrido seriously thinks he's above the rules of the NCAA. Anything to win. You take away 3 of their top juniors from last year's team, and they're done in the regionals.
First off I'll ignore the insults. Let's be adults, here. When you win a NC and news like this breaks, it deserves to be published. What would have happened if UT-Austin hadn't been able to use these guys? Probably would have been bounced in the regionals. I commend the American Statesman newspaper in Austin for putting this out there. I realize that it hurts you Horn fans when you're popped in the mouth with news of your heroes skirting the rules to win.
bigtexx.. that's what I thought it seems to be a problem because they left while not on progress to graduate.. not that they left after junior year. .but that they left while not on progress to graduate... this issue should be easily fixed... make the kids take the classes needed to be on progress to graduate.. or suspend them..
check the draft over the last 5 years. most of the texas players are getting drafted in the top 10 rounds every year. meaning they are getting a very good amount of money. and look how many texas players over the last couple of seasons are already playing the big leagues or are in AAA. texas players are much more developed and ready to make the jump to big leagues because of the coaching and experience gained at texas. a texas kid drafted in the 10th round can make it to majors quicker and stay their longer than most 2nd or 3rd rounders from high school or other universities. meaning long term they will be making a lot more money with a big league contract than a minor league one.
hakeem...I was speaking in general about anyone out of the top 10 rounds (which with 50 rounds is a lot of rounds).. isn't going to make big money for a bonus and has a small chance of making big leagues.. I don't know why 2nd rounders from other major conference schools wouldn't be just as prepared for minors though as 10th round texas players..
Which would have happened in the summer (still part of the academic year), had they not been drafted & subsequently left school to pursue their careers. His continued use of the "what if they hadn't played in the tourney?" line, which is a complete & total red herring as the players in question were eligible, shows the purpose of this thread. His continued hypocrisy - bemoaning the lack of academic integrity in major college athletics and singling out UT for particular scorn while at the same time being an admitted fan of other big-time college programs (USC, OU, etc...) and of major college athletics in general - makes his agenda easy to decipher.
You're still missing the boat. Other teams have many juniors leave for the draft? Why is UT-Austin being singled out by the NCAA for scholarship reductions if this is simply an issue of "oh, the players got drafted, therefore they couldn't do their summer school classes"? There's foul play at work (no pun intended).
buck... UT has problems.. but they are far from the worst of the bunch.. NCAA has a lot of problems and I think they need to be brought up instead of just ignored... there is another school with the initials UT that has probably a lot more problems than Texas........ almost the entire SEC in general is pretty awful. I wanted to know how many hours are required to see if there was a good reason why they would need to wait until summer school to be on progress... Because I'm assuming they want you to be on track to graduate in 5 years.. so they aren't requiring all that many hours... if UT requires athletes to be full time students and take 12 or so hours a semester I would think they would be on progress to graduate... or does UT allow athletes to take 6 hours or something? I simply don't have enough information to say if this was hours related or grades related however...
No, I understand the situation perfectly. I happen to think the ncaa rules as applied to baseball need to be adjusted. How is UT being "singled out"? Are they the only DI baseball team in this situation? I also do not see having 3 players in otherwise good academic standing who fall 6 hours short (excluding summer work) of their scheduled degree progress as being a scathing indictment of "foul play at work". But then again, I don't share your hypocritical agenda.
buck.. you are right, there are a lot of bigger issues.. I do hope they come back and graduate however... I never really thought about the fact that it was possible until I saw the top 10 pick doing it at my school... Early on the minor league seasons end pretty early and it is sometimes possible to attend class in the fall.. once you get higher up in minors and pros they end to late to go to fall classes.
Texxx is so cute when he tries to lord over UT fans with his "Rice-is-better" shtick, I could just eat him up.
