Rice undergrad is lead author on stem cell bone research in prestigious journal

i think that is understood, but there seems to be a disbelief of that statement - and a lack of any factual evidence to make such a declaration.

 

one thing for sure is taht your not gonna get a response from him anymore

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=108790

 

did bigtexxx just run off a girl?


man, you can't do that.

 

hmm, i guess. That's cool.

 

Stepping outside of the mudslinging that's going on in this thread, this is an amazing accomplishment by a very young student that could lead to a break through in medicine. Props. Second, it is sad in many respects that our society places so little value on breakthroughs in research -- particularly when compared to the value society places on running fast and jumping high.

The man who authored this line:

"you like me well if you look for a boyfriend i don't have no girlfriend so if you don't go one i your man."

...will get 1,000x the publicity that this brilliant girl will receive. Who authored that quote, you ask? Why, none other than UT running back Jamaal Charles, the proud owner of a 750 SAT score.

 

well how many institutions of higher learning are used for and attended by those who want higher learning and not career advancement or fame, or general knowledge?

 

Let me ask a questions for y'all two right wing Rice Guys.

I want this thread to stay in the hangout.

You guys aren't exactly the Christian right, right?

I've seen TJ before, he seems ok. Never met texxx. You two seem more money grubbing righties to me.

I can disagree with some of your political views, which is normal, and I can agree with some of your political views, which is also normal, but man, I can't do religious whackjobs. I thought that righty Christians opposed stem cell research and crap like that.

Help me out bros.


And on Jamal Charles. I'm sure Horns nation isn't asking for him to build a freaking rocket to mars, or write the next great American Novel.

If he can carry the Rock over the goal line, that's fanfreakingtastic. Somebody at UT can write a B+ next to his name.

 

Dude, you don't even come close to making sense.

 

we know she's smart but can she play football?

 

My problem with many of the upper echelon private institutions, Rice included, is the corruption and graft that goes into the selection process and even the underhanded tactics taken by applicants.

Let me explain from my experience. I went to Rice for 3 semesters, before a mutual discord between myself and the university led to myself abruptly leaving the school. During the time there I made many friends, and some who I still talk to today. About 2 years ago, I was talking to a former Rice alum on the changing of the SAT system, when he admitted by a slip of the tongue that he had someone take the SAT for him. At first he wanted to change the topic, but I insisted he stick on what he said. So after agreeing to keep it silent between any of his former classmates, colleagues, or business associates he proceeded to tell me that his initial SAT score was 1300. That's a decent score, but nothing to get you into Rice at the time. He then paid a "tutor" an amount of $3000 to take the SAT for him. He had all the fake id's and all documentation made, and this person made a 1450 on the SAT.

As you you to get into an top notch school you have to be multi faceted. You can't just be good at academics only and get in. My friend was a young entrepreneur in high school and had won some awards for his businesses. But he certainly, according to him, didnt have the grades( SAT score) to get in. But due to the "tutor" getting him a well enough grade he was able to get in.

After getting in he did ok, and maintained a decent GPA but nothing special. He then went on to tell me that he knew at least 4 other friends who had people help them in their process by having people take their entrance exams for them.

After my departure from Rice, I spent some time at UT, before ultimately finishing at NYU. Don't get me wrong, most people at these so called prestigious institutions deserve to be there. I have seen that most of these people have bigger ideas, and better ideas of what they want to do with their lives. Thus like the girl in the article those institutions tend to incubate the formulation of out of the box thinking and ideas that change the world.

Even at NYU, I heard stories of how people admitted in confidence to others that they had help in getting in. I've heard this is common at Yale as well.

Never underestimate the power of the wealthy to help get their way.

Another striking example was during my graduating class year, a girl in my AP English class had her father become head of admissions at Rice that same year in which she was applying. She didn't have the GPA or the SAT score to get in, but obviously she got into the school. Along with her 3 of her best friends got in as well. Kind of left me with a strange feeling as to what really goes on.

Last example is the story of a good friend of mine who's dad happens to be one of the wealthiest and famous financiers in Texas. A portion of the business school at Rice is named after this financier. Anyways his son had no business in attending Rice. We even joke today of how easy it was for him to pass his classes, due to the faculty knowing who he was.

The thing with public institutions is that 99% of people who attend are there for a specific reason, whether it be academics or athletics. Especially at places like UT, there is no doubt why someone with a 750 SAT is let in. I don't really think the school cares about him graduating, as long as he gets that crucial sack in a bowl game, and brings in the extra dollars that come with winning more games and more lucrative sponsor contracts with the school. As for the academic side, most of the people who get into a place like UT, deserve to be there. The reason why is because these schools just look at one area and one area only, their academic record. Thus they have rules like the top 10% rule, which allows blanket numbers of people regardless of what they have done outside of school. The admissions process at a public institution tends to be regimentary and focused on a stat sheet. If the numbers tally the student gets in. There is little room, for underhanded agreements as I've tend to believe that goes on at other more prestigous universities.

 

Is it really? Just like 99% of all other things in this country, including who you admittedly base who you're voting for on, it's all about money.

But props to T_J for turning a thread about an accomplishment by an extremely intelligent Rice undergrad into a bash on a UT player/college (read, UT) sports.

 

Their use of the word "prestigous" is ok, I think. They didn't say "top". It was the professor that said "top", and it's not surprising that he might overstate the impact of his own work.

I'd consider PNAS at the top of the second tier of journals (the joke is PNAS= Papers Not Accepted by Science), but it depends on whether it was a track I or track II submission. If a member of the national academy submits the paper, it can essentially bypass peer review. Checking this particular paper out, it seems to have gone the peer-reviewed route. It also seems like this undergrad is actually co-first author with two other people (grad students/technicians/postdocs), not the lone first author. I guess the chronicle didn't mention that because it doesn't sound quite as good.

It's still a great accomplishment for an undergrad though.