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[Chron] The first question Gary Kubiak will hear today: Who will be the No. 1 Pick?

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  1. codell

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    No, but it is clearly one of the reasons, and if you don't think it is, well, we'll just agree to disagree.
     
  2. VesceySux

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    I disagree. If he stays, I think Carr needs a kick in the ass. He's been comfortable for too long, smug in the opinion that he's irreplaceable as a former #1 pick. If we don't take Young and stick with Carr, it's time to bring in another QB (via free agency) that'll legitimately push Carr. (Tony B and Ragu Sauce are not the answer.) Big Dave could use the competition.
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    Maybe I am. I also might be letting a little bit of current hindsight seep into my projection.

    But, I see a heisman trophy and "two" national championships ;) vs. "Well, Vick sure does run fast"

    In 1999 I think everyone was a little overboard on the new concept of the running QB.. so it was a perfect time for Vick to ignite a hype frenzy.. in 2005, we seem to know a lot more about the strengths and weaknesses of a scrambling QB.. it's just a different time, with different players, and different games.. really hard to make that comparison work.
     
  4. mateo

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    I saw a pretty cool movie the other night about a midget who lived in a train station.
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    Excellent point.

    I called into 790 this summer saying that exact same thing should have happened in the 2005 offseason and Palilo LAUGHED at me..

    I think Drew Brees is a perfect example.. he was basically San Diego's only option.. a young, somewhat highly paid, high draft pick.. he was comfortable in his spot.. then Rivers came along and he got his ass in gear..
     
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    Wasn't there a recent documentary about the people (not CHUDs) who live in the subway tunnels of NYC?

    Rented "The Barbarian Invasions" last week. Best movie I've seen in awhile.
     
  7. JumpMan

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    Vick is the only running QB in the NFL, you can't say Vince won't make it, because Vick struggles, and they're not at all the same player. Vick was a great great great college QB, but he was a short 6' injury prone player in college, Vince is 6'5" beast who had a better college career, and was never hurt in college. They both come out this season and Vince Young is the better pro prospect based on the huge advantage he has in size and durability, even though they both would have questions in the passing game.
     
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    Its called Dark Days.
    I think I rode with a CHUD on the 2 Train this morning. Well, he smelled like one.
     
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    I'm just yanking your chain. The fact that you took the time to process the count, convinces me that it was well worth my time. :)
     
  10. gucci888

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    This reminds me of when the Bengals took Carson Palmer even though they had Kitna because they though Palmer was too good to pass up. We both have/had a star WR and a pretty good RB. There are definitely some different circumstances, but there's a chance Kubiak could analyze all what Young and Bush have to offer and maybe say Young's too good to pass up.
     
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    Chance, you essay inspired me, ridiculous as it sounds...I am a homer through and through--call me Milo Wouldabeen Hamilton. With that in mind, I have been a flippity flip-flopper in the RB/VY debate.

    After your impassioned call to arms, I'm sold--I want VY for all the right and wrong reasons, if that makes sense.
     
  12. Chance

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    Well FWIW I didn't write it to recruit new VY guys. I wanted to explain my position. I actually soul searched last night with a self-inquiry as to why I want Vince here. I mean my goodness it's just a game, right? but as I delved I started finding some residual Oilers anger and some authentic desire for that wrong to be righted, at least for me.
     
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    On 1310 The Ticket here in Dallas they just played your Vince song and plugged pickvince.com.
     
  14. pgabriel

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    reading Chance's posts followed by his signature is hilarious.
     
  15. Chance

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    Sturm is tha bomb.
     
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    I don't see how a local draft choice for one franchise can right a wrong that was committed by another franchise. Is healing the Bud Adams-inflicted wounds possibly somewhat of an unfair burden with which to saddle Bob McNair?

    I want him to run the franchise as if it was the only act in town--ever. Just make good football decisions. Just build a winner, and then just win.
     
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    I love this "trust the team to make good football decisions" argument, seeing as how their "football" decisions have worked out so well so far. even more reason for me to criticize.

    Bob McNair should go "Opposite Bob"


    "If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right."
     
  18. msn

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    I do hope you understand I'm not arguing for Bush or against VY. I'm still hopelessly undecided. I want them to make whatever pick they make for good football reasons. And with different minds in the mix in Kubiak and Reeves, perhaps that is more possible than ever.

    As far as what they've done so far, I'm right with you. Last offseason, for example, was atrocious. After they spent all spring and summer dismantling what was a decently effective defense and ignoring the o-line completely, I predicted a pretty crappy run in 2006. I had no idea it was going to be this bad.
     
  19. Chance

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    The Texans are no different than any other franchise. So far.
     
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    Trust Kubiak. Not Capers. Nice try.
     
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