[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

Vince Young.


Sorry, just casting my vote... officially.

 

Say NO to Vince Young.


I love the guy, he has great talent. IMO the Lebron of NFL. Don't know if anyone remembered when Vince won the state title for Madison, and rumors started to stir up about him going straight to the NFL until that rule came along.. but when you actually think about it.... how long do you think Vince Young can last in the NFL running around as a QB. Seriously. He has great strides that can definetly be a threat in the league, but so did Vick right? And Vick hasn't been healthy all season. Vote for Bush!

 

I think Vince will certainly be more durable than Vick and play full seasons...and probably be better than Vick all around. I just think Bush is better for us, and I believe Carr can be a QB for a championship contender with the right surroundings.

That being said, I think it will be a couple of years before any team with Vince is in the playoff hunt, simply because he's got a lot to learn about passing the ball. But I think he will definitely be a better passer than Vick.

 

I think this is a pretty accurate description of VY, especially the part about his running style:

 

Gooch - If you are gonna back-up VY's cause, please do so with more respectable evidence. That quote is opinionated propaganda that has no place here. You have not provided one shred of thoughtful evidence that VY can make it in the NFL. Many upon many successful college QB's have not cut it in the NFL, so its no stretch to say he wont either.

 

Your right he won 7

 

that's what i think so many people will just never comprehend about what vince has done in his career. he wills greatness out of himself and through his leadership and magnetic personality, wills it out of those around him. unless you followed UT for the past 7 or so years, you just can't realize what vince has done. TJ Ford elevated our basketball team through sheer talent. he was good enough to make us a final 4 team and put us on the map. but he didn't really change what we do, just how well we do it. Vince elevated UT football through his talent and his personality. his talent alone would've made us really good, his personality and leadership made us champions.

you always hear about coaches changing players, well Vince Young changed a coach and a program. UT and mack brown, the team and coach that withered in big games, suddenly became UT, the team that reveled in the big game atmosphere. because of Vince. the greatest testament to his personality is that despite the fact Vince got nearly every bit of attention thrown UT's way, none of his teammates ever begrudged him that fact, and instead seemed to be more than willing to pour it on. they didn't just talk about him b/c he was so great they had to acknowledge him, they did it because they loved him that much. david thomas raves about him.

michael huff, about to be a first round nfl draft pick, talking about UT's offense after the 4th and 2 stop said "we knew they'd score, because we had Vincent Young on our side." and rod wright said something to the effect of "we just wanted to get the ball back to Vince." the amount those guys respect and believe in him is amazing. they're his teammates, seemingly equals and always focusing on team, and yet they don't mention the offense, they just mention Vince, because they elevate him up so much and seem to love being able to talk him up like that. i don't know if we'll ever see a college player again with the complete package Vince brought to the table. it's almost otherworldly.

now maybe it will all run out in the pros. maybe grown men going for paychecks won't follow him the way awestruck college and high school players have. but nothing says it will stop. guys are still considered leaders in the nfl, so i don't see why Vince won't be one of them. but the "it" that he has, he has in such large amounts that it's just hard to see him failing.

 

And the same can be said of RBs. And OTs, and DLs, and WRs, and DBs, and LBs. Nobody is a sure thing.

 

Tim Griffin
Express-News Staff Writer

Tight coverage from a couple of the country's best college defensive backs didn't fluster Reggie McNeal. Instead, it only made him want to show why adoring fans at Kyle Field once chanted his name.


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Only a narrow opening was present when the former Texas A&M quarterback made his read at a practice for Saturday's East-West Shrine Game. McNeal didn't hesitate, whistling a 50-yard pass between two defenders for a touchdown that showed his touch and arm strength.

The collective murmur from professional scouts watching the drill was a sign to McNeal that better days might be ahead once his pro career begins.

"I was excited to be back on the field again," said McNeal, who struggled through a senior season cut short by a sprained ankle. "Just being able to go out and move around, throw a couple of passes, it felt really good again to be out there."

A&M coach Dennis Franchione, who is coaching McNeal's West team, noted his strong performances in the first two Shrine practices.

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"I don't think Reggie has made a bad decision yet," Franchione said. "He hasn't forced any balls. He is really comfortable here. He's doing his thing and is really sharp."

After coming off the bench as a freshman and leading the Aggies to an upset of No. 1 Oklahoma with four long touchdown passes, McNeal's future looked limitless.

But a coaching change and several shifts of offensive philosophy left the Lufkin native searching to recapture the special moment that came so early.

The questions became louder this season when the Aggies finished 5-6, missing a bowl game for the third time in the past four seasons after being a Big 12 darkhorse contender before the season started.

McNeal's late injury — he sat out the finale against Texas — makes his future that much murkier. Some scouts have speculated he might have a better chance to play pro football if he changed positions.

McNeal said he has no lingering bitterness with the end of his A&M career.

"When you are playing a sport, you have to put it behind you," he said. "The past is the past, so I can't dwell on it. I just have to do my job."

With his future in mind, McNeal has moved to Florida to prepare for the draft. Former NFL assistant Jerry Rhome is working on his passing mechanics in a series of workouts that McNeal hopes will improve his draft stock.

"Basically in college, we worked out of the shotgun about 90 percent of the time," said McNeal, who is 6-foot-2 and 209 pounds. "We've been working on my drop in the pocket. That's the biggest thing, and I can see a huge difference."

Saturday's game and the week of practice will be important for McNeal to show pro scouts that he has the mobility, arm and smarts to play at the next level.

That wasn't in question before his senior season. NFL draft analyst Mel Kiper of ESPN.com ranked him as the second-best quarterback prospect behind USC quarterback Matt Leinart.

But with several receivers injured and the offense's increasing use of the option, McNeal regressed in 2005. His completion percentage dipped by five points, and his nine interceptions were a career high.

"They look at his senior year, but he lost so much talent," said Texas A&M wide receiver Jason Carter, a West teammate. "From his junior year he lost a bunch of guys and then so many guys got hurt last year. It was a lot tougher for him."

A chance to play football at the next level would blot most of those painful memories, McNeal said.

"I just have to continue to be me," McNeal said. "I can't go out and worry about doing too much. I just need to go out and make the plays I know I can make — just be Reg."

 

I agree that Vince has "it".

But wouldn't you agree that Lienart has it also? I think I saw that in the Notre Dame game. And if USC gets that first down, Leinart is probaly considered college football best player ever. He defintely has the "it".

I still think if you want Vince, you have to consider Leinart. There both special QB's.

I'm not sure who'd I take over who. I'd probaly take Vince just b/c of the home grown factor but the Texans can't do that.

If they're considering Vince but not Leinart than there getting caught up in the moment.

 

Why are we talking about Courtney Lewis/Reggie McNeal in this thread?

Unless there is a chance we draft one of them with our first pick instead of Bush or Young, then I don't see the relevance here.

 

atm won 7 games last year? Oh, so they pulled a Notre Dame and declined to go to a bowl?




Also, since you brought it up, do you care to look up Vince and Reggie's stats vs Westlake?


I figured even the most loyal aggy would drop this McNeal/Young crap, the argument is over. One is a winner, one is Reggie McNeal.

 

I think a very proud aggy brought them into the mix. Have no idea why.

 

Lewis because he was Young's teammate in HS, Vince did not win the state title! Mcneal because I suggested we get him in a later round and so did another user.

 

Its Aggie

 

You know, even with Lewis and Young, Lufkin had more d1 players on their team than Madison, right? I can think of Reggie, Ju and Terrance Parks among the seniors.

 

2004- he won 7 games

I figured you could not be talking about 2005 because Courtney Lewis was hurt this year for the majority of the season (in fact if he doesn't get hurt against UT , we might not have this VY/Bush debate)

This is not a comparison to VY,I am suggesting the Texans draft Mcneal. He could be a steal if he does not shoot up the draft board.

Their stats are irrelevant , who cares how they did against westlake in two different games? Reggie beat westlake, Vince did not.

this is what i found on mcneal
rushed for 159 yards and threw for 223 yards in the state title game; brought his team back from a 21-3 deficit (I bet people thought he had the "IT"

this is what i found on vince
he completed 16 of
28 passes for 382 yards and five touchdowns and rushed eight times for 82 yards and a score (pretty impressive, still don't get the point here though with the stat thing)

 

Katy won the state championship in 2003. I think they have one or two guys that even made it to D-1. No skill position players.

So, all this talk about high school is absolutely meaningless.

 

So, Vince put up more points on Westlake than Reggie, right?


You're asking me who cares how they did but you were the one that brought it up.

In your line of thinking, if John Elway's Broncos loses to the Chiefs 41-38 and Jim Plunkett's Raiders beat the Chiefs 3-0, Plunkett is actually the better qb? Since his team won?


Just admit you hate UT and get it over with. You don't have an unbiased bone in your body. Your mind is likely clouded by the angst all of the championships the UT program has won in the last 3 or so years.

 

Agreed. Even though any high school talk favors Vince. Unless it's "who played at the better high school program."


Lufkin is and always has been better than Madison.