[ESPN] Bush turned pro after assurance of No. 1 pick

i just posted that in two of the other VY/Bush threads. how many of these things to we really need???

 

*IF* this is true. . . . Isn't this ILLEGAL?
Tampering etc?

Could the Texans get Penalized ala Minnesota with?
If this is true. . I'm very disappointed. . not that it is bush
but at the lack of integrity and ability to follow the rules

Rocket River

 

Yes, sounds very illegal. Also why would McNair not want Bush to come out - so why not tell Bush what he wants to hear.

 

How is this tampering? McNair talking to Pete Carroll is not tampering. Kubiak speculating that David Carr would perform well in an offense with Johnson and Bush is not tampering.

What is your tampering allegation aimed at?

 

"after being assured by Texans owner Bob McNair that the running back would be the No. 1 pick in the draft."

Teams aren't allowed to even discuss underclassmen, let alone tell them they'll be the #1 pick if they declare. I'm sure there are obvious ways to relay a message to someone, but I think that's what he's talking about.

 

The only context I've heard discussed with regard to tampering is NFL team to NFL team discussions, typically involving coaches that are being considered for another position.

gucci (and RocketRiver) -- Are you saying that Pete Carroll calling Bob McNair and discussing the draft is tampering? How do you arrive at that conclusion? Provide a link to the tampering rules if you don't mind.

 

I don't think it's just NFL team to NFL team discussions that are illegal. I remember Casserly on 610 saying he wasn't even allowed to discuss Bush because he had not declared.

Like I said, I'm sure there are many ways one can "relay" a message to someone so there could be nothing wrong here. But assuring an underclassman that he will be drafted #1 if he comes out is kind of risky no matter how you get the message out.

 

UNLIKELY

 

This sucks. Chances are Bush will be out of the league in 8 years, while Young should still be going strong.

 

Come on. You got to give Casserly more credit than that.

wait...

 

I think it is a load of crap. Reggie has been talking about coming out since last season. It was known that he was coming out. Even if Carroll and Bob had that conversation it had no bearing on Reggie coming out or not.

 

Thats probably why it took Bush so long to actually declare. Its great news though.

 

Bob McNair can come on tv in a few weeks and say "Im drafting Reggie Bush #1" and some of you still wouldn't believe because of the Vince Young fantasy. ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN SO GET OVER IT!. Bush in 06 baby. Please Believe it.

 

This is bull****, the fact that VY went to UT has -no- effect on his NFL career. I'm sorry to say this but the -ONLY- reason people want to draft VY is because he's from Houston and went to UT. If he was from out of town this discussion would never have even started.

 

Sad. But very true. Sux for VY fans, but it ain't happening.

 

I'm sure some Oregon fans said the same thing about Joey Harrington.

 

Statements like this only show how shortsighted every VY hater is. Have McNair declare RB #1 in a few weeks and watch him ask for the biggest rookie contract in NFL history. Last I checked he hasn't signed Master P so his agents aren't gonna settle for regular RB money. He could ask for twice what Carr, Eli, & Smith got. What are we gonna do then? We have no leverage coz we made a declaration on him. They know we ain't gonna pick Young.

What's that? Trade the pick then you haters say? Who the hell is gonna give us market value after it's been made public that we want Bush and can't sign him?

...real smart people.

 

I think it's all a publicity ploy by Carroll, and who's going to represent Bush. SC's program gets a real boost by having the #1 pick, ESPN always needs a story, whoever the agent in the background is, sure as hell wants Bush #1. From where I sit, it's all talk. Texas will pick who they want, and they haven't picked anyone yet. And the stories about Carr flourishing in a different offense boost his trade value, if that's in the cards.