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[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 11, 2006.

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  1. Mr. Clutch

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    Manning
    Manning (even if you disagree he was good this year, he will be)
    McNabb
    McNair (hurt but good)
    Culpepper
    Brees
    Plummer (this year)
    Brady
    Green
    Palmer
    Hasselbeck
    Roethlisberger
    Delhomme
    Bulger (hurt also)
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yep, and Joe Montana was drafted in the 3rd round......thus my point about experts not knowing all that much.....

    DD
     
  3. anon3803

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    5.4 was waay below his season average of 8.7, and you know why? Because almost everytime he gets the ball he tries to go outside and turn the corner. He had never faced a defense as fast as Texas, and in the NFL defenses are even faster and you'll see many many more plays like his first carry of the Rose Bowl where he lost 2-3 yards.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    I guess I did say good
    IMO Green, Delhomme, Plummer [this year], Roethlisberger and even Eli
    are more game managers . .they simply have to not throw an int
    I think Roethlisberger can do more.. . but they don't ask him too . .

    and I'm not Sold on Bulger


    Let's look at RBs
    Alexander, Shaun * MVP
    Barber, Tiki
    Benson, Cedric [He will be]
    Bettis, Jerome
    Davis, Domanick
    Davis, Stephen
    Dillon, Corey
    Dunn, Warrick
    Faulk, Marshall
    Green, Ahman
    Holmes, Priest
    James, Edgerrin
    Johnson, Larry
    Johnson, Rudi
    Jones, Julius
    Jones, Thomas
    Lewis, Jamal
    Martin, Curtis
    McAllister, Deuce
    McGahee, Willis
    Portis, Clinton
    Taylor, Fred
    Tomlinson, LaDainian
    Westbrook, Brian
    Williams, Ricky

    and that is at a cursory glance.



    Rocket River
     
  5. Rocket River

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    I wonder . . If he carried a full load would that Avg have went down further this season.

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    Thats a nice list of running backs but more than half of them are very one-dimensional. They're good at running which is what makes a running back good and they are decent-good blockers but aside from that there's not much else they can do i.e. Jamal Lewis, Clint Portis, Corey Dillon etc. Yet they still managed to have very nice careers thus far. However, take Ron Dayne for example. Hell of a runner in college (Heisman) and was dubbed the next Bus etc etc. Didn't translate because he was one dimensional among other things.

    RB's like Alexander, Bettis, Martin, and Faulk will go down as "great" (use the term loosely because true great would be Jim Brown,Sanders etc) players because they've put in there work and do well at more than just 1 thing but I think LaDanian Tomlinson can surpass all these guys. My point is Bush reminds me a lot of LaD Tomlinson in the way he's versatile and able to line up as a receiver if need be and has all the moves as well and more as he can also return kicks and punts. The bottom line is that's a nice list of good running backs which are like you mentioned a dime a dozen but Bush like LT has the potential to be not just good but great.
     
  7. Biggienaz786

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    Texans needa go Reggie-Reggie in this draft: pick up Reggie Bush 1st, and Reggie McNeal later.
     
  8. leroy

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    Reggie McNeal might make a good WR at some point. He'd be worth a late 2nd day pick.
     
  9. Rocket River

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    Manning
    Manning (even if you disagree he was good this year, he will be)
    McNabb
    McNair (hurt but good)
    Culpepper
    Brees
    Plummer (this year)
    Brady
    Green
    Palmer
    Hasselbeck
    Roethlisberger
    Delhomme
    Bulger (hurt also)

    Look at the list of QBs presented

    Who on that list can be Great Manning, McNair, Brady?
    I hate New England. . but it is because they get too much praise
    but
    Brady shows leadership that Worries me as a Colts fan.
    No other QB on that list would worry me so
    [hell peyton has not shown that leadership . . . nor Marino]

    Vince Young has that kind of Leadership
    I made the comment that Plummer was Dilfer 2.0 . . meaning better
    than dilfer. . but being asked to do similar things

    Young can be great
    Bush can be great

    To dogg one to prop up the other is useless

    Two things worry me about Bush
    1. size and durability
    2. people like to talk about his all purpose yards. . well a 1/3rd of his game will be gone because we have a all pro returner

    Both He and Young will have to adjust to the SPEED of the NFL game
    Young will be slower because he will have MORE RESPONSIBILITIES


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  10. VesceySux

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    Considering Chaz Casserole's ridiculous streak of drafting a QB (or 2) every year, I'm actually expecting this to happen. Yes, even if we were to draft VY. ("BPA," my ass.)
     
  11. halfbreed

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    Reggie McNeal? Wow...are you serious?
     
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    He was rated higher than Vince about a year ago. He was poorly coached, they did not let him play his game.
     
  13. Biggienaz786

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    yes i am. it's one thing to be able to look at a team's wins and losses, and another thing to actually watch their games.

    if you'd watched rmcneal's games the last 4 years, then maybe you'd know why i'm serious. some of us follow teams besides UT.
     
  14. solid

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    McNeal is an incredible talent. At the high school level he was a legend at Lufkin leading them to 5A State Championship. Sprinter speed-NFL arm. Oft injured and IMO, not well managed at A&M. Will star in the pros.
     
  15. percicles

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    Ally Mcneal no tiene huevos!!!!
     
  16. halfbreed

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    Well, nice try but as I host a 2 hour long sports radio show weekly, I also follow other games.

    Reggie McNeal will not be a star in the pros. I'm more sure of that than I am that VY will be a star.

    Brian Bosworth was once rated as the top prospect. How did that turn out again? Don't put too much stock in ratings. Tom Brady was a 3rd round draft pick. Big Ben wasn't the first QB taken. Why? Not as highly rated. He seems to be doing fine to me.
     
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    Actually, Mr. Brady was 199th overall in the 6th round, just for clarification. I do agree with you about McNeal though, he may be like QC in Big D if he was lucky...on the field of course.
     
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    Bush turned pro after assurance of No. 1 pick
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    click this

    Reggie Bush has long been assumed the top pick in the NFL draft, but after Vince Young's performance in the Rose Bowl, the Trojans wanted some assurance before the Heisman Trophy winner agreed to forgo his senior season.

    Reggie Bush
    Bush

    USC sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen that coach Pete Carroll gave his blessing for Bush to turn pro only after being assured by Texans owner Bob McNair that the running back would be the No. 1 pick in the draft.

    Young, a Texas native, led his Longhorns to a victory over the favored Trojans in the national championship and ignited a public frenzy demanding Houston select the quarterback instead of Bush.

    However, the Texans appear to be sticking with their initial plan of drafting the running back -- a preference of the top candidate to become their head coach.

    A Broncos source told Mortensen that Gary Kubiak, Denver's offensive coordinator and the favorite for the Texans' head coaching post, believes current Houston quarterback David Carr can flourish with a new offense headlined by Bush and wide receiver Andre Johnson.

    Kubiak, a Houston native, is widely considered the likely successor to Dom Capers, who was fired as Texans coach on Jan. 2, one day after finishing a 2-14 season with a loss at San Francisco.

    However, under NFL tampering rules, the Texans cannot comment about or finalize any moves involving Kubiak until the Broncos' season is over. Denver advanced to the AFC Championship Game with a 27-13 win over the New England Patriots on Saturday.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2293458
     
  19. KaiSeR SoZe

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    NOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOOOO!



















    NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
     
  20. YaoMing

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    Is this supposed to be a surprise? This could be seen from a mile away.
     
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