I dont understand why we all need to talk about how Van Gundy is "bad" for T-mac when Tracy himself has said that Gundy is the best coach he has played for. End of discussion. If the superstar is happy with the coach, then why do we need to keep discussing Van Gundy?
Say what you want but anyone who blames a coach for injuries is just plain stupid. It's like blaming parents for their kids bicycle accident saying they should of used a tricycle. Listen to yourself, you're claiming no players get a say so in how many minutes they want. Have you been keeping up with the rockets? Do you remember them saying they wanted to sideline TMAC for 3 weeks? Yes I believed they said that. What kind of idiot coach would put his superstar back into the lineup early in the season when he's still recovering. Obviously JVG wouldn't but TMAC intervened with that. Seriously, you need to stop posting out of your ass trying to fire at me when I know my facts and you don't.
the only injuries that have truly had appreciable effects are those to tmac and yao. i want to know how you can blame jvg for those? should cd have drafted someone else? what are you implying? appreciate the fact that he is making men out of boys and doing things with cba players that legends couldn't do. enough with the hating and the scouring for any excuse to pin point on jvg...
You forgot the words "...in the 2004-2005 season." As Rockets head coach, Mr. Van Gundy has done no better than Johnny Egan, Tom Nissalke, Don Chaney, and Del Harris. (all of whom have better than .333 records in the playoffs, and did not lose the worst game 7 in NBA history). He has not come close to equalling Bill Fitch.
LOL. Nice post. I really hate it when people make JVG out to be some kinda evil monster. I mean, he is doing the best with the crap that we have left, and our team is still competitive. That is a damn good job coaching. All the haters should just shut it.
I love statistics. No disrespect to any of the coaches you named, but ... Chaney's playoff record is 2-9. A whee bit under .333. Unless you're talking about his career playoff record. Oops, that's 2-9 too. As for the rest, it's a bit convenient that missing the playoffs is not weighted against the average. If we want to bend the data a bit, I have a question for you: of the coaches mentioned in your post, how many have taken the Rockets to the playoffs every single year they have coached?
With the crap we have left? Who gave him this crap though? Our fans? Weren't all these ex-Knicks, old and injure prone players hand picked by JVG? Isn't this team assembled by JVG himself? You have to be honest! The Rox's current record is 12-21, it never reached .500 after the second game of the season, before all these injuries happned. Damn good coaching job? You must be kidding!
Apologies on the Chaney error. He did "take the Rockets to the playoffs every time he was their head coach at the end of the regular season" though.
Ha! Well, I'm cool with that as long as we can say that JVG has taken every team he has ever coached to the playoffs (2002 ... ahem).
you know, if losing is cool, you could just make me the coach and even pay me a whole lot less. i could get the job done. playoffs??!! don't talk about playoffs. are you kidding me? playoffs??!! i'm just hoping we can win a game, another game.
NAme one ex-knick on the active roster?(not including coaches or players we ourselves sent to NY...ie Moochie) this "he only wants ex-Knicks" crap is so stupid. restating it over nad over only makes you look ignorant and biased. Deck, bro you know how much respect I have for you, but you are offbase here. almost immediately after Tmac got back, Yao went down. Just who do you think we shoudl have ran out there? We didnt have anyone else that can do what Tmac could do. I could understand if we had a good backup for him and refused to play him in favor of running McGrady hard, but we dont. IF we wanted any chance in hell of winning, we HAD to use Tmac. No ifs and or buts. Than, on top of that little bit of logic, you know how hard of a worker TMac is, do you honestly think he didnt want to be out on that floor every second he could? He wants to win so bad, he would play 49 minutes if he could every game. I realize you sympathize with him since you know all too well how bad backs can be...but comparing an athlete in the kind of physical shape he is in and yourself isnt quite the same....dontcha think? He is young and in great shape, Im sure his ability to comeback from this type of injury is much better than yours was. FLatout....any man who can keep this team motivated to keep battling even into 2 OTs when it would be so easy for them to just say "Hey we got no help, we cant be expected to win this game" deserves at least a grudging respect from even the worst VG hater.
yes we have and no he doesn't. what about 2000 and 2002? in 2000, our starting center (hakeem), backup center (cato), backup backup center (hamilton), starting power forward (barkley), backup power forward (rogers), and backup backup power forward (massenburg) were all injured (or kicked off the team in hamilton's case) at the same time at one point in the season. we were starting pig miller at center and matt bullard at power forward for a few games. now i like matt bullard and pig miller, but if they're you're starting pf/c tandem, things are going really crappily. in 2002, at one point we had 4 of the 5 projected starters out at one time (taylor and rice for the season, cato for something, francis for plantar fascitis), and the one guy still playing, mobley, had two hurt ankles. i remember healthy doses of dan langhi and terrence morris. things have definitely been this bad. maybe not worse, but this bad. they were for Rudy. people constantly complained about no playoffs in 4 seasons and never cared that two of the seasons were the seasons above, when injuries submarined any possible chance we might have had. one of the other 4 seasons, 2001, was widely regarded as an overachieving season. but hey, it was just 4 seasons w/o the playoffs in the end to most people, no matter the circumstances or how disgusting the western conference was back then (i think we had the two best records to not make the playoffs ever).
R2K, I don't hate JVG at all. I've just felt for awhile that he was playing McGrady more minutes than I thought wise. When I checked his minutes after his injury, it looked to me to be true. I admit my back has been killing me, but watching what's been happening to the Rox has felt worse. If he wasn't coming off the injury, than of course you play him as much as you think he can handle, and Tracy always wants to be on the court. Hell, they all do. It's the coach's job to limit their minutes if that's needed for the player's own good, and the long-term good of the team. I've said before that he could've reinjured himself, anyway. How can we know? But limiting his minutes just seemed the right thing to do, at least to me. Just a hypothetical, but are we going to win more games, with Yao out, (or playing!) with Tracy playing 35-38 minutes a night, with a rare 40+ minute game, or are we going to win more with him consistantly playing 40+ minutes, every night, and then missing several games? This is just a thing buggin' me right now. I'm fine if people disagree, because it's hard to prove one way or the other, and we for sure need him playing. I just think we played him too much. Not as much as we needed, but too much.
to be honest with you guys i dont really like jvg...but i cant really blame him for the shortcomings of this year with all the injuries and stuff...but there are some things during the games that he does that leaves me scratching my head... a few things on the top of my head, forget the bobcats game but why would he ever have deke and bowen in the game at the same time...thats a definite liability with two inept offensive player on the court at the same time...and the end of the nuggets game...y would he put DW on carmelo in the last seconds..i mean DW cant guard people his own size how can he guard someone that is 6'8...a better matchup would of been stro on carmelo (not saying that stro would of stopped him either but it would of given us a fighting chance) and put deke on elson cause you know the nuggets are not going to give elson the game winning shot...
