Now I will agree with the statement that VY absolutely has more upside. I just get tired of people that have no idea what they are taking about railing on Carr. He has never been given a legitmate chance to succeed. Look at what happen to Culpepper earlier in this past season. He lost a bunch of guys on offense, Moss, O-lineman, OC and he struggled mightily. This was a guy with a QB rating of over 100 from the 04 season. You could make a strong case that overall the Vikes still had more talent than we did on O.
Why does everyone APOLOGIZE for Carr? He has had 4 years....what type of leadership did he show? HUH? How was that 2-14 year this year H-town? Carr.....is AVERAGE at best...AVERAGE !! And he is a poor leader. 4 years is long enough....time to pick up stakes.....franchise Carr, draft Young and let the chips fall where they may. DD
This poll is very interesting. Split, almost down the middle. It shows the uncertainty of whether or not Carr can get the job done. Do we have the same poll for Vince?????
but I like Bush enough to keep him, but wont mind if we traded him. Carr is easily replaced Brad Johnson, call Rich Gannon out of retirement, shoot even John Kitna can do what he does. Seems like get Bush and keep Carr or Draft VY and miss out on Bush
I don't think so I think he could goto the superbowl but only in a TRENT DILFER type fashion I don't want a GAME MANAGER I want a QB Rocket River Carr's Mentor. . . Dilfer Young's Mentor. . . . McNair
No one needs to apologize for the dude. Look if you don't like him that is fine, but it is completely unfair to judge this guy based on his time here. Again, the line didn't block for him, as a group we have the one of the poorest WRs group in the NFL, and we have no TE. It would be difficult for anyone to succeed under these circumstances, period.
Does it bother anyone that Criss Simms has taken his team to the post season while Carr has lead his team to the Toilet Bowl???? Crissy even had a game winning comback drive.
I voted no. That is based on when he was asked on multiple ooccasions this season to throw a simple out to a WR and the ball ended up hitting a coach on the sideleines or thrown right to a CB. I am basing that on the fact that early in the season they had to tell him to throw the ball away instead of running out of bounds and losing yards for the team. I am basing that on the fact that if Carr hits a receiver 2 times in the 1st quarter he will get locked on that WR all game and attempt to throw into triple-coverage and ignore wide open WRs in the process. If you want to blame the O-line, why don't you go back and look at games when he actually had time to throw and still played like crap. Look at the Steelers game when he ran into more sacks than the line gave up. True, the O-line has not played well, but when they have David has looked like a rookie out there. The bottom line for me is Vince actually worked his tail off in the off-season to become a better passer for this season. He has shown leadership that Carr will never have. Vince's potential is over and above David's. I know that Vince will continue to strive to be the best. I feel that David has been content with using the O-line as a crutch for all these years. Basically thinking if they suck he doesn't need to strive to be a better player either. That kind of attitude infects an entire locker room when it comes from your "leader". Also, his entire acceptance of the coaches telling him he can't option to a pass really showed me David's competitive fire or lack of. You are telling me a QB in his 4th year is going to accept not being able to audible to a pass when seeing 9 guys in the box? I have done a complete 180 on VY. Not totally because of the Rose Bowl, but looking at game DVDs, looking at simple passes that David cannot seem to make, decisions he can't make. The same passes and decisions VY is making right now. Hey, I know I am not going to change anyone's mind with my post, just telling you what I came up with after doing some serious research since I have no life, lol.
I said this in another thread, but it is more relevant here. If David Carr was available in the draft AGAIN, this year, after 4 years in the NFL...he would NOT be the top pick...probably not even in the top 20..... He is an average QB.....at best. We need to move on... DD
LOL - lacking, because I have a different opinion than yours? Look, I wanted to like David Carr, but the guy has simply not progressed, he still locks onto one receiver, he still takes sacks because he does not throw the ball away, he still gets too flustered if hit early, and the plain fact is that he has been beat up so much that he may never reach the potential he had coming out of Fresno State. I can not think of any starting QB that was pretty mediocre for 4 years and then came on, even with a change in coaching. I think Carr is what he is, an average QB in the NFL....if he was on a team with a better line, he would play better, but nothing spectacular, IMHO. I think Vince Young will bring an entirely new dimension to the NFL QB...teams will have to worry as much about him running as throwing, and he is by far the superior athlete. I just see Carr as a nice guy, who tried hard, but for some reason just does not have "IT", and Vince has "IT" and a bag of chips. DD
Uh huh, Elway took his team to the Superbowl before Terrell Davis. But what happened once he got there? Spanked by the Redskins, Giants, and Niners. It took more than Elway to win the Superbowl and it will take more than Young OR Carr for the Texans to do the same. Namely a defense. But I see a Carr/Bush combo as being better than a Young/Davis combo, particulalry in the near future.
So it sounds like Dan Reeves and Charlie Casserly are firmly in David Carr's corner. They draft Reggie Bush or trade the pick Casserly gets a good player (probably Bush) in the first round and blows 3 of the next five picks. Texans improve to 7-9 next season and Casserly's contract is extended 2 yrs. GM blunders cause team to finish 6-10 in 2007 and Vince Young is leading Titans to 10-6 record. Texan Fan looks angry.
I really think this is Casserly's last year here as GM, unless he hits on the majority of his picks this year. I am hoping that one of the tackles falls to the 2nd where we can pick him, and in the 3rd maybe a TE and then best available player with the 2nd pick of the 3rd.
