People, Vince Young is a good player no doubt, but I have a few names for your: Tommy Frasier Akili SMith Charlie Ward Michael Vick All those QB's dominated at the college level at running the ball, and only Vick has proven to be good in the NFL (hardly). In fact, Tommy Frasier did the exact same thing that Vince has done, win a national title on running the ball. Where does that bring us? To reality!!! Sorry folks, but if you think Vince Young is going to play at the NFL level the way he did in the Rose Bowl... then you have gone mad. Where were you peeps a week ago? How come the Reggie Bush loving was going on all year, and after ONE game you have changed your minds? I cant stand people making thier decisions on this one game, and the fact that he is from Houston. Use your heads! The reason the Texans sucked so bad this year was because of poor coaching and the wrong system being in place. David Carr deserves another chance not only because of this, but because he has proven he can win in the 2 previous seasons. Our defense was just GOD AWFUL this year and that ruined it all. Listen, Reggie Bush is by far the most dynamic player in this draft, and probably all previous drafts. There is a reason why it is being reported that Reggie Bush WILL be the texans #1 pick. Bob Mcnair knows what you all need to clear your head and realize.... Bush makes us a better team while Vince Young would set us back. Dont Worry.... You will come to your senses soon enough.
1. did you need a new thread for this?? 2. i'm sorry...did you just compare tommy frazier's passing ability to vince's? 3. i know..the rest of us are all dumb. you're the only one using your head. of course, point 2, above indicates you're not. but even still.
Just for the record, Akili Smith was never a dominant runner. He was strictly a passing QB, with some scrambling ability.
"Team and league sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen that the Texans will pass on Young, a Houston native, and select USC running back Reggie Bush with the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft, pending the formality of Bush announcing that he is turning pro. Almost nothing will change that course, the sources told Mortensen. The Texans will pick up an $8 million option on quarterback David Carr, who was the expansion team's first draft pick four years ago. Texans owner Bob McNair made the decision after getting extensive evaluations from various sources that strongly endorsed Carr, including a favorable report from Dan Reeves, the former longtime NFL coach hired last month as a consultant."
Mel Kiper's top six players 1. Reggie Bush, USC RB (Pending Bush entering draft) 2. Matt Leinart, USC QB 3. Vince Young, Texas QB 4. Mario Williams DE, NC State 5. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia 6. A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/dis...ts/3572378.html Not so fast, ESPN Don't believe two reports on ESPN and ESPN.com regarding the Texans on Saturday. The first one said the Texans were talking to the Titans about possible compensation for coach Jeff Fisher. Anyone with any common sense would know that there is no way that Tennessee owner Bud Adams would let his head coach come to the Texans. The second report said the Texans had decided they would take USC running back Reggie Bush, which was true before Vince Young's spectacular performance in the Rose Bowl. But the ESPN report also said that even if Young comes out early the Texans already have made up their minds to take Bush with the first pick. Also not true. The Texans have not even begun their evaluation of Young because few thought he would leave the Longhorns a year early. "It's premature to say anything until our new coaching staff gets in, and they are able to analyze our team, the draft and what happens in free agency," Texans general manager Charley Casserly said Saturday.
So you're worried that Vince will go to the NBA like Ward? Yeah, that's a possibility, genius. BTW, though I didn't follow that much, don't you have a MASSIVE, foot-long burnt orange crow sandwich to try to cram down your throat at some point as you make your re-entry into the world of bashing UT/Vince Young? Would you like some bearnaise sauce to go with it?
Did Frazier, Ward, or Vick ever throw for 2500 and rush for 1000. I don't think so because the ONLY player to ever do that is about to come out in the draft, you might have heard of him, Vince Young. You can't compare him to other running QB's he is superior to them in the passing game. They were strictly running quarterbacks that could never find their niche as a passer. VY has already shown that he is a true dual threat quarterback.
Unlike those scrubs, VY will play on sundays. VY won't be playing for a basketball team, (even though I'm sure he can run the point for an NBA team), or selling Insurance. At least Akili Smith threw a football once in the NFL.
well, it's not a very good point is it then? because there's no question that young will be drafted very, very high in this draft. i don't believe either ward or frazier were taken at all. look...at worst, vy is going #3. before the rose bowl he was still a top 6 pick. and raw is right. you're talking about a QB who just threw for 2500 yards. this isn't just a scrambling QB. this isn't mike vick. there's not a bigger mike vick critic on this board than me. i don't want mike vick. but you can bet your ass i want VY on my team.
Don't forget that Young also led the nation in passer rating. I don't think the others were even aware of the term passer rating.
There's a reason why QB's go #1 very often and RB's rarely, rarely do. RB's are relatively easy to find. Their careers are shorter than average NFL careers. The dropoff from a good RB to a decent RB isn't that great. Their games depend heavily on the quality of talent around them (OL, passing game). QB is far and away the most important position on the field. Their careers last much longer than RB's. The dropoff from good QB to mediocre is huge. Good QB's, esp in this era of the NFL, are ridiculously hard to find. QB's can make players around them better and are the leaders of the team. RB's aren't. If you want to pass on a potential franchise QB to draft an RB, he has to be an overwhelmingly better talent. Don't think that can be said about Bush, who in the biggest game of his career, was determined to be the 2nd best running option on his own team by a highly respected coach. You could just as easily name guys like Warrick Dunn Eric Metcalf Brian Westbrook to compare Reggie Bush too. Bush ran behind an OL in college which paved massive holes. He won't have that in the NFL going to a team with a top 5 pick. In short yardage situations and goalline which are vital in the NFL, Bush won't even be on the field. That lowers his value. He's slight of build as well and looks really mediocre running between the tackles. Hardly a sure thing himself.
