I love how whiplashtony has completely ignored the shooting percentages that have been posted. Even if people were to concede that EG is as good a rebounder and shotblocker as his per 48 minute stats indicate, he is still virtually unplayable because of his shooting percentages and the fact that he shoots so much from the outside despite those. He would kill an already dead Rockets offense right now.
You know, I bet right now, the New Jersey Nets are saying to themselves, "Why oh why did we run off Eddie Griffin! Boy, is his play really salt in our wounds."
yeah as long as he's shooting the wrong direction he's okay. God forbid he actually shoots and hits someone.
We start Bruce Bowen? Eddie House is a better scorer than T-mac? Kendrick Perkins is a better rebounder than Ben Wallace? If you look at stromile swifts avgs per 48 mins, they are numbers he would not normally put up if he played a 48 min game...furthermore, he probably would never be on the court for 48 mins because of his lack of consistent effort and foul pronability(is that a word?). I personally think its not a good measure for a players true effectiveness
Anyone that thinks Eddie was going to make it here wasn't watching it go down. He gave up on the Rockets, but more than that he gave up on himself. New Jersey gave him a try, but it didn't work for him there either. Maybe he just needed to get to a smaller market city where the social pressures aren't so high. I am glad to see Eddie doing well, as I am all ex- Rockets (i.e. Sam, Robert & Cuttino) as long as they aren't playing us.
Ha. Let's see: A thread that seems meant to show the Rockets made a 'mistake' in not putting up with Eddie's problems longer than they did... Which then gets torn apart by actual facts and useful stats, as it did... Results in the thread starter calling posters idiots and morons and getting angry for the fact that those said other posters actually had valid points... Yeah. If you wanted to make it seem like the Rockets made a mistake with the EG situation (the only mistake actually being losing our picks for him in the first place), you failed. Don't get mad at everybody else that this was made crystal clear in this thread.
I feel you, but it hurt more than a few picks...it was Jefferson and Collins, which would give us some much needed depth right about now.
1st of all, who plays 48mins a game? Its a reason why some guys play 20,30 and 40 mins a night. I've seen Eddie Griffin and he still cant finish inside and still jacks up 3's whenever he gets the ball. Eddie Griffin is playing 20 mins for a reason. I'd imagine if you did John Barry 48mins his numbers would say he should be a starting sg in this league. Some guys are what they are. Eddie Griffin is not even hype anymore. I mean he's been in the league 5 yrs and still has terrible footwork in the lane. Let it go.
Screw Eddie. Look at Adrian Griffin: 12/05: 14 points, 12 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals I cry myself to sleep sometimes when I think of Adrian Griffin and what we missed out on. The horror! The horror!
OK, so ONE DAY we might regret letting him go... When? 4 years from now? I guess we should have held on to him and watch him not help or improve our team for 6 years, just to see him MAYBE turn into a decent player.... SOME DAY Maybe a better thread that you could have started would be "Who would you rather - Swift or Griffin"
Wrong forum. Should go in NBA dish. and f**k Eddie Griffin. I wouldn't piss on him if his hair was on fire.
I guess whiplashtony knows what it's like to have salt in HIS wounds now...lol. EG is WAAAY inconsistent, anyone that's ever seen him play knows that for a fact. Inconsistent, finesse PFs that stay outside usually don't seem to thrive in the NBA...EG is proving that. Actually I was hoping that in at least ONE of his interviews the guy would show some kind of life...good lord, is there anyone in the league more boring to listen to than him? WAKE UP EDDIE!
OUCH! That salt in the timberwolve's wounds must hurt! You are right! Eddie Griffin's horrendous statline against Orlando. He made a paltry 2 shots out of 8, only 1 shot out of 5 three pointers, 3 rebounds, 1 ast, 1 TO, 2 Personal Fouls. That matches his line for the other 25 plus games. Face it. His best years were in Houston when he had averaged career highs of 8.8 pts in his rookie year and 8.6 pts in his sophmore year. We gave him 26 mins the first year and 24.5 mins the 2nd year. Since we dumped him, his fg% and scoring has gone the last 2 seasons for his current career low of 5.2pts and 35.8%. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3517/career;_ylt=AoWH2EERvpNu.ff6tQoQFtCkvLYF
Whatever - a bad game makes it convienent for your arugment but it looks like everyone else failed math on this board, or are too burned by griffin to undertand what a mistake it was to let him walk. Per 48 minute stats account for an AVERAGE of how he plays from game to game. And in the two categories I mentioned he's still doing exceptionally well. He can't throw it in the ocean, so what. Unless you have Dirk, I want rebouding and defense from a power foward. Once again he got limited minutes, its on their coach as far I'm concerned ...
Using per 48 mins stats on pedestrian and below average players is foolhardy. If we had 2 EG clone's on our team taking up 48 mins at the PF spot, the Rox would be uglier than they already are. Salaries aside, I'd take either Stro or JH over EG (and I've had my say on Stro). Give it up. EG is pathetic and probably always will be. You should be his agent or publicist. And to always blame the coach, whether Rudy, JVG, Byron Scott or Dwane Casey, on EG's failure to perform just doesn't make any sense. Believe what you want. You are free to be wrong.