Eddie was better. Taylor was better. Thomas was better. An aged Juwan is still better. Bowen. It is close, but he is a better PF. Cato, at his worst, was better. Chucky Brown was better. Matt Bullard, close but as a PF was better. Thorpe of course. Barkley of course. Throughout the years most if not all of our backup PF were better. The best thing to do with Stromile is to fake an injury at this point so he can sit. Alternatively JVG can fake a fight (Stromile is too passive to fight) to make it look like JVG is unfairly sitting Stromile down. Playing him without both Yao and T Mac getting double teams, allowing him a few open paths for uncontested dunks, just exposes his almost complete lack of ability to do anything but jump high and look good while running in a straight line.(and decreases his trade benefit). He cannot create anything for himself offensively. He is not that valuable defensively, though that is a relative strength, when considering his overall weakness. He will never rebound as he is 1) too dumb to jump at the right time and 2) to weak to box out. He is ineffective as an skinny underweight center,who is easily pushed around, as well as ineffective at power forward. Needless to say he has no SF skills. Trade him for Mark Jackson and a first rounder. Any first rounder. If necessary, trade him with something of value (Welsely's expring contract?) if you can get a real player who is not on the down side of his career. If it is not too long of a contract, consider taking some deadwood if it will yield a first rounder. Try a kucklehead. Anything. Quick. You just have to get rid of him while he still has some perceived value. By the end of the season his only value will be in a couple of years as an expiring contract. IF JVG and T-Mac can be fooled, we might still find a taker, if we act fast. If we do it now we might be able to foolsomeone into thinking we are doing it our of desperation due to current injuries.
I don't know if he's the worst PF of all time, but he's one of least favorites. He's a scrub, and an underacheiver, and should be traded for anything we can get.
Just human nature not to admit you made a mistake so quickly, so I don't think he is going to be traded until the offseason. Which brings up a question, what players were traded in the same season they were obtained, I have to think JJ and Damon Jones are on that list.
I dont understand why everyone was so big on him, and how huge of an aquisition it was for the Rockets to land him. I remember watching him with the Grizz, and I was never really impressed. He just has no inside game whatsoever....
You are correct when you say he has NO inside game. You would think a guy with his talent would have progressed more by now. I can only say that he must have no desire to work on his game. I mean he has no turnaround jumper, no hook shot, no low post moves. On offense most of the time he stands around and looks at everyone else. He has the aggressiveness of Eddie Griffin and seemingly has no desire to get any better. If he wanted to be great he could be, but I think he is content with being what he is a talented player who has no desire.
I'm going to say this again because I caught flack for it in the off-season, as far as this guy's progression as a pro and his future, 25 ain't young when we're talking sports. this guy has a substantial history to look back on now. I didn't think it was a bad move, only because he isn't getting paid much. but do not expect him to progress.
What is the deal he signed with us again? I don't remember it being crippling so maybe he has trade value. Rocket River
this cracks me up picturing someone secretly admiring his highlight on espn and wishing he could be on their roster... wait, this, for some reason, sounds so familiar...
I do not know what was expected, but by NBA cost standards he is a fair value. I did not think he would sign with us for financial reasons. Do not get scared because Jerry West gave up on him. West's biggest aquisition at LA - Shaq was a no-brainer. West has made mistakes too. Trade him if you want, but it is foolish to just give him away. Do not trade him a la Mo Taylor- where we get nothing but garbage for him...... Lighten up on Stormile- lower your expectations......
Maybe I shouldn't compare, since they are in different situations. But, I wanted to take a look at the other 2 candidates at PF over the summer. My own preference had been SAR, then Marshall, then Swift. In fact, that's still my preference. Code: Min % BLK TO Reb Pts Swift 20.8 0.487 0.9 1.4 4.1 8.3 Marshall 28 0.398 0.9 1.4 7.4 10.5 SAR 35.4 0.558 0.9 1.9 6.5 16.6
The timing of this thread couldn't be worse. I think long-term, the plan is pairing Yao & Swift down low is very complimentary. Not to mention no one's gonna score in the paint with both of those guys patrolling. When Yao's out with an injury, who is Swift complimenting? A role player playing out of his role.
I really don't think he's as bad as most of us are making him out to be, I just think his strengths aren't being utilized in this system and he's not versatile enough at this point to adapt. JVG's the type of coach where the players must adapt and conform to his system, rather than him adapting his coaching to his players. If Stro were playing for a team like the Suns he'd be having much more success and everyone would be talking about him..much like Diaw.
I've been on Howard a lot lately, but I tell you what, Swift had an oppurtunity last night to establish himself even more, ans it seemed like he didn't even care. The Rockets power forwards are, at the end of the day, terrible players.
What the hell do you people expect him ti do in 20 minutes a game? 8 points isnt THAT bad considering he is the 3rd option behind Mac and Yao. He could do a little better then 4 boards, but geez......worst Rocket PF of all-time????
He played 14 minutes.....what, do you want him to put up 10 and 10 in 14 minutes? Give him a break man.
