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[The Herald Sun] Australia: Beach erupts into violence

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  1. tigermission1

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    http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,17532687^661,00.html

    Beach erupts into violence

    ANGRY crowds have singled out and bashed people of Middle Eastern appearance at Sydney's Cronulla beach as racial tension erupted into violence.


    And an ambulance called to the scene to treat five people injured in today's violence has been attacked by a mob who shattered its windows.
    Meanwhile, police have been pelted with beer bottles, and their patrol cars stomped on, as the outnumbered officers struggled to maintain control.

    Witnesses saw officers using capsicum spray in a bid to quell those perpetrating the violence.

    NSW Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Goodwin said police were forcing their way through the crowd, trying to prevent further attacks.

    He said a number of people had been assaulted but could not say exactly how many. However, an ambulance spokesman said at least five people had been injured.

    It was those people the ambulance was trying to reach when it was attacked.

    "An ambulance attempting to transport five injured people from the scene was set upon by a large group of people who smashed its windows," an ambulance spokesman said.

    Mr Goodwin said today's violence was disgusting.

    "What has been occurring on some fronts is that people of Middle Eastern backgrounds that have been seen in the Cronulla area – a swarm of the crowd has approached these people with vile abuse, in the most un-Australian way," Mr Goodwin said.

    "We have a number of reports of persons that have been assaulted."

    He said the bulk of the crowd had behaved but pockets of violence had broken out.

    "... we have sections of the crowd that have swollen towards young Arabic males and females, who have been using this beach."

    Three people have been arrested so far, with more arrests expected.

    Earlier today, police rushed to Cronulla train station where a mob ran there from the foreshore after receiving a text message saying a group of Lebanese people were trying to leave. Mr Goodwin said the text message was wrong, but sparked a scuffle at the station between the crowd and police.

    "The behaviour that's been seen down here at Cronulla today is nothing short of disgusting and disgraceful," he told reporters at the beach.

    "It's certainly not the Australian way.

    He appealed for calm in the beachside suburb in Sydney's south.

    "These people are from an area that is a peaceful suburb ... and what they are doing to their area at the moment, fuelled by people from other areas as well, is nothing short of disgraceful."

    Earlier, a police spokeswoman said two men, aged 32 and 20, had been charged with offensive behaviour.

    A third man had been arrested and was expected to be charged with assault, she said.

    It was not clear if any of the arrests related to earlier witness reports of at least three men being pursued and attacked as they tried to get away from angry members of the crowd chasing them on foot.

    At least two of the men took refuge at Northies Pub, where police gathered to protect them.

    Roads were closed down as the violence flared today, with mounted police trying to maintain control lines as a police chopper hovered over the beach.

    Some bars and shops along the beach have temporarily closed. Others have bouncers stationed at the door, blocking anyone from going inside.

    Authorities had expected trouble today after two violent incidents at the beach last week – an attack on two lifeguards on Sunday and a brawl later in the week in which youths turned on a media crew. A series of text messages then began circulating, encouraging members of two rival groups of beach users to attack each other.

    One of the messages had urged "Aussies" to take revenge against "Lebs and wogs". Another urged locals to rally at a point on the beach today to take retaliation against "middle eastern" gangs.

    As the 5,000-strong crowd moved along the beach and foreshore area today, one man on the back of a ute began to shout "No more Lebs" – a chant picked up by the group around him.

    Others in the crowd, carrying Australian flags and dressed in Australian shirts, yelled "Aussie, Aussie, Aussie ... Oi, Oi, Oi".

    Authorities spent last week calling for calm, and Mr Iemma today said he would amend the law so that thugs who assaulted lifeguards could face the maximum 25 years in jail.

    The amendment would allow courts to consider it an aggravating factor if an assault victim was a volunteer.

    "Those who selflessly give up their time to save people in distress on the beach should not be considered easy targets by thugs and hooligans," Mr Iemma.

    "We are going to back them with extra protection that will ensure that judges take into account their status in the community when sentencing."
     
  2. Sishir Chang

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    Yes even in Australia there are dumb@sses.. :(
     
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    I guess Aussies are more racist than the Southeners over here.
     
  5. hooroo

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    that was an ugly racist mob fueled by alcohol in an area known for its "trailer homes".

    there is a problem and its not all one sided. i actually live in a nice area that is ethnically diverse but there are always these groups of lebanese who like to sit/stand around in shopping areas making racist calls, the asians cop it the worst, maybe because they don't react?

    i've been listening to the police radio feeds and the lebanese revenge attacks are in full force. cars being vandalised. ie smashed, a woman was attacked by a group of ten men, a man got stabbed trying to protect his female companions...
     
  6. tigermission1

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    It's always nice to know that men don't mind ganging up on a female, it showcases their manliness I guess.

    Anyways, back on topic, there does seem to be a lot of tension. The irony is that the majority of the Lebanese who live in the west (the VAST majority, something like 80% or more) are Christians.

    I am more or less alarmed by the size of the mob, reported to be around 5000 or more. Is that the case hooroo?
     
  7. dockerland

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    A man was just glassed in a scuffle in Cronulla. How weak is it when people resort to weapons.

    This has been building for a long time with many of the Lebanese gangs in the area targeting innocent people and trying to control everyone. While I do not agree with the action that was taken on Sunday (I dont see how anyone could) it has been brewing with the beating of the 2 lifeguards being the final straw.

    The problem that so many of the residents from the area have is the police have been unable to control the gangs any many believe this is for fear of negative media and racism claims. It is not unusual for the lebanese to threaten to get their "family" and come back and kill according to a mate who bounces in the area.
     
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    No offense but that sounds like a lot of rumors and the kinds of rumors that breed more ill will, and create a divide.
     
  9. dockerland

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    This is an italian who has been targeted by the neo nazi groups over the last 2 days. Why it would be made up I would not know.

    A group of people was chasing a young man through the streets with weapons according to the police scanner 5 minutes ago.

    The information about the glassing also came from the police scanner.
     
  10. Dubious

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    Haven't surfers worldwide been known for their hospitality, inviting tourist to come on down to their beach and share the waves?
     
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    Sorry, there was a misunderstanding. It wasn't that part that I was saying sounded like rumor.

    The part that didn't sound real to me was the part that they have a history of threatening a family's life then coming back and killing them, as being a regular tactic, but the media doesn't report it and the authorities don't do anything about because of fear of sounding too PC. I find it hard to beleive that a nations media(I have a friend who works for 'Seven network') and all of its authorities would tolerate a pattern of intimidation and murder all because they were scared of being labeled un-PC.
     
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    hate creates more hate; jesus, buddha, muhammad warned us, we never listen.
     
  13. DUCK2324

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    The Aussi's should take care of it there own way. A foreign invader gets feed to the CROCKS.
    I am sick of this PC world we live in today
     
  14. hooroo

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    report on the lebanese "revenge" attacks:

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/armed-gangs-on-rampage/2005/12/12/1134236005902.html
     
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    I can understand the anger and tension part, but this sounds more akin to a KKK rally with all the racial epithets being thrown around. I can be mad at a Hispanic guy, but that doesn't mean that I will call him a 'beaner' or a Chinese guy a 'chink', so let's get some perspective here...
     
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    Great, now we enter a vicious cycle. The police better go in with an overwhelming force to end this before it gets worse...
     
  17. insane man

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    from the anecdotal numbers i've heard 60% of australians of lebanese origin are christian.

    this sounds about right because i know in the US the numbers are even higher given the large migration of lebanese in the early 20th century.
     
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    I was wondering when someone would post this...

    I would love to blame the violence on the people who injured the 2 lifeguards, but that would be too easy. This recent violence is probably the product of years of pent of rage and hostility between the different ethnic groups. Even after the police quells the violoence from both sides, the hatred will still simmer in their hearts waiting to erupt again.
     
  19. OldManBernie

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    I saw a report of this on Fox News. The images are pretty disturbing, it was an outright riot and the police had to form a human shield to protect the people. Very sad stuff, didn't realize there's such racial tension in Australia.
     
  20. dream2franchise

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    100% spot on. The build up has been so thick and has finally erupted. Years and years of gang rapes, gang bashings, bullying and intimidation have finally reached a dangerous peak - many australians - alot of them just hateful, alot of them just fed up won't stand for it anymore. And to those who burned the australian flag in front of everybody...what are you doing here??
     

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