I just reread the title and realized that you are focusing on this: "Should Congressman Condit Resign?" and I had focused on the topic from this view: "Should Congressman Condit Resign?" Mango ------------------ Get it right or just don't do it! Resistance is futile....you will be assimilated. Start more Webber threads! [This message has been edited by Mango (edited July 09, 2001).]
I used to be idealistic about our government and my fellow citizens, but have had my expectations shattered many times. It is disappointing that standards/expectations have had to be lowered, but should they remain high and have them constantly dashed? Mango ------------------ Get it right or just don't do it! Resistance is futile....you will be assimilated. Start more Webber threads!
And see I was focusing on the ? in the subject line of the thread. ------------------ Why not visit MovieForums.com? Or FilmDallas.com?
How come we can't have politicians who are honest, good, solid people? I mean, I realize the actions of some are not necessarily indicative of the whole, but it seems more often than not that politicians are lying, cheating scumbags. And yet, we let them run our country. There are bad guys on both sides, and there are good ones as well. But the good ones seem very few and far between while the bad ones get all the pub. If you tell someone you want to be a politician, the person instantly has a negative connotation of the word, and would ask "why would you want to do that?" as if it is a disease or something. Why not virtuous people in politics? Why can't we have society's best people in politics rather than its most corrupt? ------------------ CC.net's most courteous driver Oh yeah, and I'm looking for a job right now, so hire me please
Oh, I meant "purty Juicy" and thats my final answer Regis ------------------ This space left intentionally blank...
I'm with mr_oily on this one... unless he killed her or had her killed, I don't think he should resign. Politicians LIE all the time, it's part of the job. rH ------------------ join the club! Rockets Psychedelic Groove House Club on Yahoo!
I think he should resign for being just plain stupid. He pleads with an ex-lover to lie to the FBI (if they find her) and then he supposes that that same FBI will not uncover his relationship with Chandra. That is highwater stupid and, of course, immoral. ------------------ "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak. Because someday you will have been all of these."
Only suspects take lie detector tests. Until the police name Condit a suspect in the case, he will not take a lie detector test (according to his lawyer who would neither confirm nor deny Condit's willingness to take a test). ------------------ Cause & Effect
Here's the logic I love so far here!: "yeah..we've never held politicians to high expectations, so why should we start now...yeah...let's just let them walk all over the republic because, hey, they always have." this is the most defeatist logic I've ever seen...geez, it's time to pack up and head home if that's where public sentiment truly is. I'd like to think we're not all that cynical. i hope that we demand more of our leaders. if we haven't done it before (which i disagree with) then, dammit..let's demand it now. let's demand that our congressmen cooperate with law enforcement officials in investigations. let's demand that they not have sex with our kids when they go to the white house as interns. let's demand that they not lie under oath..or harass women..or etc or etc or etc. ------------------
if all political leaders who had affairs were to resign there would be like 5 guys left in washington. from henry hyde to ted kennedy, most of them have had or are having affairs, but i dont care about their personal lives. ------------------ mgh 1924 - 2001 http://www.al-gore-2004.org/ [This message has been edited by dc rock (edited July 09, 2001).]
What really bugs me is in '98, Condit was calling President Clinton to come clean about his relationship. Now, Condit doesn't want to talk about his own relationship His seat is going to be filled by a Republican anyways in 2002. ------------------ Cause & Effect
How come we can't have politicians who are honest, good, solid people? Simple. Honest, good people are less willing to go through the fakeness, pretending to life people they don't, making deals that betray their ideals, etc, that politicians have to do. They are also less willing to have their name dragged through the mud by opponents and organizations that will distort views and such to make them lose. There are lots of good people out there who would LOVE to be involved in government, but aren't they interested in the environment that we currently have in D.C. Unfortunately, as much as we say we hate those types of people, we still keep voting them in year after year. ------------------ http://www.swirve.com ... more fun than a barrel full of monkeys and midgets.
DC Rock, I hear alot of people say exactly the same thing as you. Here is what I don't understand about your sentiment. Condit obstructed a murder investigation! A girl is missing, and the police are working against time to piece together the clues, and Condit decides that he will not assist in finding his ex-lover. If he would have come clean about his relationship, the cops could have organized and focused their investigation. Now, new questions arise and valuable time is lost. I find Condit's behaviour to be reprehensible. What an A HOLE! I can't believe how cynical we have all become. Condit should be run out of Washington immediately by his constituants, but I guess expectations of politicians get lower every year. ------------------
[/b][/QUOTE]DC Rock, I hear alot of people say exactly the same thing as you. Here is what I don't understand about your sentiment. Condit obstructed a murder investigation! A girl is missing, and the police are working against time to piece together the clues, and Condit decides that he will not assist in finding his ex-lover. If he would have come clean about his relationship, the cops could have organized and focused their investigation. Now, new questions arise and valuable time is lost. I find Condit's behaviour to be reprehensible. What an A HOLE! I can't believe how cynical we have all become. Condit should be run out of Washington immediately by his constituants, but I guess expectations of politicians get lower every year. [/B][/QUOTE] i agree that he should have told the police that he had an affair with levy, but if hes not a suspect then i dont believe it really effected the case that much, i have a feeling the police knew something had went on between them. also, i dont consider myself a cynic, i still have high expectations for our government, but their personal lives dont matter to me. ------------------ mgh 1924 - 2001 http://www.al-gore-2004.org/
I don't think Condit should resign because he had an affair with a girl in her [late teens/early 20s]. I also don't think he should resign because of not telling the police about their relationship,though I do think that he's on very thin ice. Also, wtf is up with politicians and ugly women? ------------------ Anyone need a C/C++/Win32/HTML/PHP/SQL/Java/Perl/x86 coder?
shanna -- i think you're on to something there, perhaps. I've heard it said that the best candidate we could possibly have for an elected position would be the one who would turn down the opportunity out of humility, a desire to avoid the dirty politics and a greater willingness to spend more time with his/her family. ------------------
