Secret EU report launches scathing attack on Israel

ha! Take it to the admins if you feel like it, but you'll be disappointed in what you hear if they respond. You're really desperate to be right about this, aren't you? You're now wasting your time researching this issue?

By the way, it looks like after being gone for a while, both you and bigtexxx posted within 8 minutes of each other on the exact same topic. Are you so desperate for support on this board that you're now creating two usernames to agree with each other?

You also should learn how post per day averages work and how they have very little bearing on current posting frequencies when you're looking at a 5 year history. I guess we should add analyzing statistics to the list of topics you're not familiar with.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing the EU get tough with Israel. The land grab is just causing a lot of grief for everyone and is totally useless.

Palestinian states has to be created soon, and get rid of the settlements. Otherwise we'll never have peace in the middle east.

 

Agreed - the EU tends to be pretty harsh on Israel, but one are they are right (and we keep ignoring) is Israel's continued development of settlements. If, in a final scenario of a Palestinian state, there will be no settlements, and if you're serious about having a state in the next 3-5 years, why create new settlements now?

 

The West Bank barrier/wall, as planned and being constructed, will never insure normal relations with the inevitable Palestinian state. It will instead produce hatred for generations beyond that already engendered by the conflict, in my opinion.

(from the most recent UN report)

...it is difficult to overstate the humanitarian impact of the Barrier. The route inside the West Bank severs communities, people’s access to services, livelihoods and religious and cultural amenities. In addition, plans for the Barrier’s exact route and crossing points through it are often not fully revealed until days before construction commences. This has led to considerable anxiety amongst Palestinians about how their future lives will be impacted...The land between the Barrier and the Green Line constitutes some of the most fertile in the West Bank. It is currently the home for 49,400 West Bank Palestinians living in 38 villages and towns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank_wall




This picture shows a portion of the barrier being built by Israel in the West Bank. This part is in Abu Dis, close to the eastern part of Jerusalem. The photo was taken on the Jerusalem side of the wall, facing south. The local residents on both sides of the barrier at this point are predominantly Arabs


The barrier hugging built-up Palestinian areas


For a people forced to live in ghettos for many centuries, almost beyond counting, it's astonishing that Israelis are allowing this to happen. Yes, they have every reason to act to prevent terrorism and suicide bombings, but they are not building this on the Green Line, which could have easily withstood criticism from the world community, and created little serious backlash from the Palestinian people, providing they were given the West Bank as their state. Instead, the Israeli government seems to be doing everything in it's power to have the opposite result.

In the long run, this is the height of stupidity, in my opinion.



Keep D&D Civil.

 

i couldn't agree more.

however i must say israeli politics are great. hopefully one day we'll see the same type of stuff in the arab countries as well. hell i wish the we had that wide a spectrum of political thought here.

 

I agree - I had no problem with the concept of a wall. At some point, you just have to put preventative measures in place and seperate people, and I understand that. But the way they designed it just freaking bizarre. From what I understand, it also cuts lots of Palestinians off from the farms and such that they work. How does that help things any? In the end, you don't just need a Palestinian state, but a peaceful one with a stable, functioning economy.

 

Agreed. A lot of the wall's design looks like simple, naked greed... not a barrier to terrorism.



Keep D&D Civil.

 

Perhaps we should invade them since wasn't Saddam's support of Palestinian suicide bombers one of the reason we invaded them.