USC has had close games against inferior comp all year. What makes them any more of a national title contender than UT. They almost lost a game to Fresno St. As far as UT's defense, I can admit their weakness was exploited yesterday. Running up the middle. UT's weakest postion is linebacker, partly because Mack believes in the system Tom Osborne used to use. He takes speed guys, converted DBs and play them a linebacker. When you get up on an opponent like UT has done all year it works great. Nebraska was the same way, playing all their games ahead. But when you're in a tight game, and the opponent can run up the middle it gets exploited.
Anyone who can say and believe that McNeal has been as good or better than VY thus far is looking through some hardcore maroon colored glasses. On another point, I agree UT didn't look like a national championship contender yesterday. USC's had those games as well. I honestly believe that both teams will have their best game on Jan. 4 (provided both make it) and we'll be in for a spectacular BCS championship game.
So by using these stats instead of the common opponents, you're saying a more fair evaluation of McNeal's talent is how he performed against Texas St. and SMU--basically 2 division 2 schools? McNeal would have had a great career if he had played in Division 2, which is why he has a pretty good chance to have a decent Arena League career.
McNeal got his first start against a national contending OU team and won. McGee got his first start against a national contending UT team and had a great game. It means nothing about who is better, sometimes teams just get a boost from a change in routine. McNeal had a good career at A&M, he's leaving arguably the school's best qb ever. He'll get a shot at the NFL. He's not Vince Young, but he has been pretty good. The Aggies biggest problem all year was their defense.
He will be playing in the NFL for sure. And him playing those teams is the same as texas playing baylor rice and southeast west louisiana state tech
Finally somoene other than me that knows what they are talking about, the only thing we disagree on is that he is not as good as vince young.
It's like comparing Tim Redding to Roy Oswalt. Both have talent and ability but while one is a Cy Young candidate, the other well - isn't. Both have strong arms, but Reggie is far more inaccurate and throws the ball as hard as he can on every snap. Both are athletic, but Vince is a gamebreaker running the ball while Reggie shies away from hits and that makes him an ineffective runner against good defenses. And I won't even go into Vince's value as a team leader, and the confidence he gives the Longhorns - while Reggie does neither.
That's true but Fresno St. is a better team than A & M. They've only had three really close games against Fresno St., ASU and Notre Dame and all of those, even ASU, are better teams than A & M. A week ago I would've given the edge to UT for the championship but now I think USC has a slight edge. After the game against UCLA we'll have a better picture but even if SC struggles against UCLA if UT doesn't look that great in the big 12 championship I would give the edge to SC.
Horrible comparison because redding is awful- more like Ben Sheets and Roy Oswalt. Arms- Reggie has a better arm and accuracy, no doubt. Running- Vince has this by a slim margin Leadership- Vince has this as well by a huge margin I agree with this poster on most of his points accept for the accuracy thing. Reggie was a failure because of the people around him and the coaching he never got, in the end he will be the better player. I am saying that both players are a product of the people around them. In football , you can only be as good as the people around you
So leading a team to an 11-1 record and winning the Rose Bowl does not qualify as a good year? Vince has lost 2 games as a starter. Reggie lost more games this year alone.
the rose bowl year was a failure, the team they had was better last year than this year. Vince Young blew the game against OU, tried to blow the one against kansas, missouri, and am also.
This is just stupid. Last year's team was nowhere near as good as this one...the defense is better this year, the offense has more weapons, hell, the receivers are finally experienced, where last year they were all a bunch of freshman. Come on.....make a valid point, at least. DD
Hate to tell you genius but that was a Sophmore QB leading us as a first year starter against a Michigan team that was better than any A&M beat- in the BCS Rose Bowl- Not the Cotton Bowl, not the Poulan Weedeater Bowl, against a better team than Baylor - Reggie McNeal's signature games as an aggie. And if you imagine how good Vince will be next year as compared to how Reggie was this year, the difference will be immeasurable.
Granted the aggies lost, Tennessee was better than michigan last year. So Reggie lost the baylor game? So a team that lost cedric benson and derrick johnson is better this year?
Tennessee stomped A&M. A&M managed how many yards of offense and scored how many points? So your comeback is - we lost to a better team than you beat. If Texas was so good last year and Michigan was so mediocre, how did Michigan rack up so many yards on our "great team". If Cedric Benson was the key to that team, why wasn't he leading us to the winning victory against a not-so-good Michigan team. And if the team last year was better than this year, why are we undefeated this year, beating an Ohio State team on the road and absolutely destroying every Big 12 team by a much wider margin than last year?
No need for name calling. What I'm saying is that you said they've both had A good year (meaning 1). What I'm saying is that Vince had MORE THAN 1 good year.
IC2000, You should chill. Folks that call everyone 'idiots' and 'aholes' don't last long around here.