Not a problem. As a Rocket fan I also hope he has a better career than Amare. I think basketball life for Yao would be so much easier if his offensive game was more diversified with both the low post and the high-post. Because right now it is 100% low post and 0% high post. This is making him easy to defend.
Yep. i love to see more PnR with either tracy or head. i also think his has become to one dimesional. maybe revert to a mixture of inside and outside might hel;p his game. some people can become to stagnent in a offense.
Btw, all Nba Gm's would take Amare over Yao.. http://www.nba.com/preview2005/gmsurvey_players.html If you were starting a franchise today and could sign any player in the NBA, who would it be? Tim Duncan, San Antonio 40.0% LeBron James, Cleveland 36.0% Shaquille O'Neal, Miami 8.0% Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix 8.0% Others receiving votes: Kevin Garnett, Minnesota, Dwyane Wade, Miami
That's not all Nba Gm's , I guess. Looks like each GM could only have one vote. 8% means only 2 votes fore Amare. KG had 1. Total 25 GMs, not sure if CD was involved. IF every GM can vote 3 times, KG might be ahead of Amare and I'm sure some GMs would pick Yao before Amare.
I wasn't around the forum during the draft, so please enlighten me. Were there a lot of people clamouring for Amare over Yao back then? Were there a lot of discussions of Amare vs. Yao? IIRC, Amare was drafted 9th overall. Even if we didn't take Yao, wasn't it more than likely that we would've selected one of these fine players instead of Amare? 2 Chicago Jay Williams, G, Duke 3 Golden State Mike Dunleavy, G/F, Duke 4 Memphis Drew Gooden, F, Kansas 5 Denver Nikoloz Tskitishvili, F, Italy 6 Cleveland Dajuan Wagner, G, Memphis 7 New York Maybyner "Nene" Hilario, F/C, Brazil (Rights traded to Denver) 8 L.A. Clippers (from Atlanta) Chris Wilcox, F, Maryland
Thanks. It is only appropriate that my question was answered by a "longtime fan." OK, I've searched through some old threads. It seems like a lot of people here loved Amare ... for the 15th PICK! Very few people rated him in the top 3, and I think only one or two people rated him #1. I think Amare is a great player and the Suns are lucky to have him. But to constantly complain about "what could've been" is a little weird and unproductive.
Poll results: About 2 of the 30 GMs would pick Amare over everyone else to start a franchise. The other 28 GMs would pick someone else. Ownage: According to the poll results, all 30 Nba Gm's would take Amare over Yao. Do they teach how to interpret poll results in Statistics 101?
The poll results say about 2 of the 30 GMs would pick Amare over everyone else to start a franchise and the other 28 GMs would pick someone else. And yes, Yao is not mentioned in the poll. What do you not agree with? Anyway, I just think your way to interpret the poll results is very interesting, didn't mean to pick on you. Good night.
Bash the Rockets?.. what the hell you talking about. all i'm saying that amare up till now has panned out better. is that illegal to say?i've stockup way more then i should have over the years, but the fact is he has'nt lived up to expectation. BTW, in my first post in this thread, i defended yao.
How the hell did this thread become an Amare vs. Yao thread? Hindsight is always 20/20. Seven other teams passed on Amare as well. Drafts are always somewhat of a crapshoot and we ended up with the second best player from that draft. So...back on topic, I take it I'm the only person on this board who's satisfied with Yao's progress?
Look at Yao's games when we've had a relatively healthy TMac. Sacramento: 22-10 New Jersey: 18-2. It's a small sample size but Yao's played pretty well in the two games TMac has been at close to full strength. Yao looks a lot stronger, faster, and flat out better this year. Let's give him a solid string of games with TMac in the line up to see how he's doing. Overall, I'm encouraged.
Excuses,excuses, enough already there are no excuses for not playing well.8 points don't cut it for a 7-6 player in any league.The good teams still win minus key players. Only losers use this excuse.FYI ,Webters definition of excuse-exculpate,forgive,remit,acquit,free,pardon, (CONDONE),overlook,exempt,reason,justify,absolve
Right, because Shawn Bradley, Gheorghe Muresan, and Manute Bol have clearly been successful players and never scored 8 points in a game. When will people see that Yao's size is hinderance in today's league more than anything else. And for the 100th time, it's not about making excuses. It's about taking off the damn blinders and finally realizing that what you're expecting from Yao is clearly out of reach. Yao is what he is. Blaming him for being slow-footed and ineffective against fronting defenses is about as dumb as blaming Barry and Mutombo for aging, or blaming McGrady for not having a stronger back.
You need to take a chill pill. Does he normally average 8 pts a game? No. Was it a disappointed performance? Yes. But he normally doesn't play that bad. He had one bad game. Get over it.
Are any of you angry at Moochie for not being Steve Nash? Are you angry at Baxter for not being Kevin Garnett? I'd understand your rants if Yao were a lazy ass unwilling to work hard, but he's clearly not. I'm damn sure he's playing with as much heart as he can, and I'm sure he wants to be a great center that can carry this team. However, I'm also pretty sure it's beyond his ability to do so. Have any of you stopped to think, "Hmmm...maybe he's playing as hard as he can but just not capable of doing what I'd originally thought he could do."
Isn't it kind of contradictory when you say you're satisfied with Yao's progress this season, yet you think he is what he is. How can he be progressing if he is what he is? I can't say I'm happy with Yao, but I'm not mad at him or anything. He seems to be trying his darndest to dominate like everyone wants him to. I just don't know if he's capable of doing more than what he's done. The problem as I see it is Van Gundy is putting Yao in a position where if he doesn't completely dominate everyone he faces, the team is going to lose. Yao should not be expected to dominate. He should not be someone you run your offense through every time down the court. Not even most of the time. There have been too many proven methods to limiting Yao's impact on a game (get him in foul trouble, let a long athletic player front him, putting a physical defender on him to tire him out) to rely too much on Yao for our team's success. His role should more closely resemble a role player/bordeline star, rather than the superstar role that Van Gundy is trying to get him to play. Look at the way Utah is using Mehmet Okur. He has hardly any plays run for him. The guards control the ball 90% of the time. Yet he's averaging 20 points a game this season. If Yao played in a system where the guards created scoring opportunities for him rather than vice versa, he would be averaging 22 points easily rather than the 18 he averages now as the focal point. Yao is most effective when he's not the center of attention. I know everyone's going to say he won't be the center of attention when T-Mac gets back, but even with T-Mac out, the offense should not be run through Yao.
